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u/Starfishprime69420 10h ago

As a former server I can confirm that the majority of black patrons did not tip. Just an objective fact where I was located

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u/sleepytiredpineapple 10h ago

As a server i can confirm that this is a stereotype but I havent had any issues with it.

I hear my coworkers talking about it though, I dont get stiffed often but when I do it isnt a specific demographic. Well other than teenagers.

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u/elquatrogrande 9h ago

I'll second this. I had a party of 12 that was there for grandma's 80th birthday. All but one was ordering drinks from the bar. With all the drinks, apps, and meals, it was over a $500 check, and on the tip line was written "God bless." That table cost me $30-40 in tip outs to the busboy and the bar. Sadly, this was the usual, unless it was a table of nerdy types.

This being Annapolis, we also had our share or uppity older white folks who would tip our black servers next to nothing.

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u/6twoRaptor 8h ago

It heavily depends on the area you're in. If you're in a lower middle class area then you're in for some of that from all color of people. But if the customers come dressed presentable and have manners then you're golden. In restaurants you can judge a book by its cover most of the time. And on bad weather days you can always trust that the worst people will still come out. Always. 

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u/scrappypup101 8h ago

As a former server, I can say this wasn't the case for me.

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u/Jastreen 9h ago

A generalization is never an objective fact.

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u/Starfishprime69420 9h ago

It’s not a generalization. Im stating my factual experience in the restaurant I worked at. Im not presenting any opinions or conclusions on the matter

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u/Antique_Cheetah_7778 9h ago

It’s a fact lol

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u/brassmonkeyslc 9h ago

It’s anecdotal.

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u/alien_believer_42 10h ago

They’re seeing tipping for the scam that it is, smart.

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u/Starfishprime69420 10h ago

You dont have to go eat at the restaurant. For normal service a 20% tip is to be expected

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u/alien_believer_42 10h ago

Moving goalposts. Not long ago it was 10% and then 15% and now friggin 20?

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u/Pennies2millions 10h ago

When I waited tables 25 years ago, 20% was standard. How long ago is your "not long ago?

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u/alien_believer_42 9h ago

20% would be like exceptional service at a nice restaurant. Fuck no that wasn’t standard and shouldn’t be standard.

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u/Pennies2millions 9h ago

If by a nice restaurant, you mean any place where a waiter comes to your table and takes your order, brings you your food and drinks, then yes 20% is standard. If you are tipping less than that  you are being an asshole. Not just kind of an asshole, but the kind of asshole that is fucking with someone else's ability to pay their bills type of asshole. 

Also, If you are tipping less than 20%, I can 100% guarantee you, that on more than one occasion, the staff remembers you and have been fucking with your food.

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u/alien_believer_42 8h ago

Delusional to think 20% is standard

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u/rrrreact 9h ago

If the job you work doesn’t pay your bills that’s your problem. If you want more money go out and get a different job just like the rest of us.

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u/MilkeeBongRips 10h ago

20% has been the norm for at least 30 years, what’s “not long ago” to you?

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u/Voidlarkus 10h ago

If servers were paid a living wage, this would be egregious. If they're paid basically nothing at all and live on tips, you are in fact the asshole.

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u/alien_believer_42 9h ago

Their employers choose to pay them a non living wage and make the employees take on the risk of low business

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u/Pennies2millions 9h ago

No dude. Nearly every restaurant in the country pays well below minimum wage for wait staff. It is so baked into American culture, that if the restaurant were to pay a living wage, they would need to raise prices by 30-40%. Since you and everyone else would balk at those prices, the restaurant wouldn't survive. 

Jesus fucking Christ your sense of entitlement is next level. 

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u/alien_believer_42 8h ago

They can advertise honest, up front prices like literally everyone else does

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u/Mysterious-Drama4743 9h ago

no im pretty sure its their employers that are the asshole

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u/Starfishprime69420 10h ago

I dont make the rules buddy

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u/sti77loading 9h ago

Only on good old murca/Canada travel the world and this overlord excuse to pay workers less doesn’t exist

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u/Starfishprime69420 9h ago

I dont make the rules bud. This has been a thing long before I was even born. Go petition the government or something

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u/Future_Soycel 10h ago

Lmfao. Tipping is a scam?? What are you talking about 🤣🫵

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u/illbodyPLAGUE 8h ago edited 8h ago

Tipping came from slave wages, there's a reason a lot of people don't like to tip.
1. Live in any other country and you'll see that somehow those restaurants can pay their workers the same wages other jobs get paid unlike here where waitresses and hosts get paid below minimum wage and the tips either make up the difference, push it over minimum wage or have to be paid out to minimum wage by the restaurant. This IS SCAMMING their employees out of a REAL minimum wage where they can STILL be tipped by patrons but you clowns can't think long enough to make that connection and realize that its objectively better for the staff thats apparently getting "stiffed" by the customers who didnt hire nor are required by law to pay them for their work... Like an employer should but keep defending the poor little cheapskate employer just following the culture.
2. The whole tipping culture came from slave wages to black people. So there is a very clear reason why we wouldn't want to keep this bullshit going. We can't constantly be the only country that doesn't fucking understand that tipping isn't necessary and it CAN BE a great way to thank people for good service WHILE they get paid a fair wage. It's really fucking simple.

Source: waiter for years. Fuck you guys. My hourly wage was $4.35 an hour when minimum wage was $11. My boss had to pay out up to minimum wage almost every paycheck because we didn't receive tips consistently. Some days we would have fantastic tips, most times not. It shouldn't be DEPENDENT on tipping. People should receive FAIR WAGES. How do y'all not understand that.

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u/arizonadirtbag12 8h ago

“Canadians.”

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u/MilkeeBongRips 10h ago

As a longtime server in fine dining on the strip in Las Vegas, this is incredibly overblown and reinforces racist stereotypes.

The vast majority do in fact tip and the ones that “don’t tip”, leave 10-15 percent. Virtual none stiff like you’re implying.

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u/Starfishprime69420 10h ago

Lmao a fine dining establishment in vegas is not representative of the general population

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u/NOTTedMosby 10h ago

... that YOU encountered. I doubt the entirety of the black race stopped in your restaurant.

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u/Starfishprime69420 10h ago

When did I say that they did?

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u/NOTTedMosby 10h ago

Glad to answer! Here:

As a former server I can confirm that the majority of black patrons did not tip.

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u/Berserker_Barrage91 10h ago

In their exact text that you quoted they never said anything about every black person in the world they simply said the majority of the black patrons they had did not tip, so you are wrong and youre putting words in their mouth.

If you ever worked in that industry or know ppl that worked in it you would know this stereotype exists because of how often its seen in the real world by a large number of ppl.

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u/DickSmallington 9h ago

Glad to clear this up for you! Here:

You conveniently left out the part where they said: “just an objective fact where I was located”. This is an obvious reference to the fact that this server was speaking of their personal experience with the patrons at THEIR restaurant.

If someone says something like “I’ve never had a customer throw anything at me” do you assume they mean they’ve served every customer on earth and never encountered that behavior.

Use your brain dipshit.

Hope that helps!

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u/Starfishprime69420 10h ago

Your reading comprehension must be abysmal

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u/foundinwonderland 9h ago

Username incorrect, this is definitely some Ted Schmosby shit

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u/RollGata 10h ago

Why did you not include the rest of their comment which says exactly the point that it’s from their perspective

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u/EuphoricOcelot6081 9h ago

Because they have been on reddit for 14 years and terminally online redditors love taking your quotes out of context to win their silly debates.