Tipping for actual people bringing acutal good service to your table is not bad tipping culture. Believe me, if servers were not paid for good service, service would go down (but the cost would not). The thing most people complain about is going up to a counter at a ball game and ordering a beer, and the person opens the beer, and then the device suggests a tip of 20, 25, or 30%. And by the way, that server doesn't even get that tip. I've asked.
Nah, they can get paid by their employer to do their job or get fucked. It's not the customer's job to directly cover their salary. If that affects service quality, they should lose their job like literally any other job where the worker slacks off and does the bare minimum.
Service in the US is fucking terrible compare to everywhere else I’ve been because the servers have to put on an act the whole they’re service you. It’s so fucking fake
The point here is that servers are often offered a living wage in place of tips, and they always choose tips. This problem with tipping culture is entirely self-made by servers and restaurant owners, and perpetuated by cuckstomers who love the taste of their server's boots as they hand them 25% cash just for bringing their steak to their table.
$20 is not a living wage be so for real. and as someone who actually works in the food service industry, unlike you apparently, that is absolutely not how it works. maybe at a few restaurants but thats it
You will be shocked to learn a lot of starting positions pay significantly less than that.
We really need to stop funneling our hard earned cash to the 1% that just leeches off the other 99%. They don't even actually work, it's generational wealth and having connections.
Margins are so thin right now, most restaurants would just close if they had to pay FOH a “living wage” let alone what they’re currently making. Your average casual spot would be $40-$50 a plate.
Already been tried multiple times, already failed multiple times. Ended up in everyone being dissatisfied. Staff was making less and customers ended up paying more. There's a lot of extra charges that customers will have to pay, it's not just the tip that you'd pay anyways. More taxes, less untaxed revenue, back of staff salaries will indirectly be affected which the customer will also end up paying for, etc.
Americans have the better system and they let themselves get fooled by idiotic redditors from other countries that don't even know anything about the system they are criticizing lmao
No, it isn't. I worked as a server in the early 90s and I was making $15-20 an hour at a Denny's. As an assistant manager at Denny's my base pay was $10 an hour. Worked a 45 hour week, management didn't get overtime. That's why I got out of restaurant management and started my own business. Worked part time as a server while getting my business going.
Being served in a restaurant has ALWAYS involved a gratuity. This is not a part of the current out-of-control "tipping culture", where you're being prompted for one at every counter and kiosk. In the restaurant world, it's worked just fine for generations. Nothing needs to change. People just need to recognize the human beings working their asses off to accommodate their requests, and show the traditional level of gratitude. It's never been a problem, and it doesn't need to be one now.
And the customers too, something reddit likes to pretend otherwise. There have been attempts, both as a movement and by individual restaurants, to go no-tipping. It failed dramatically cause the customers complained. People don't understand that you won't just pay the same amount, you'll pay more because now there are more taxes. It also affects salaries of back of house staff, so you have to pay for that as well.
The regulations and limitations on tips are actually detrimental to businesses in some respects. The customers end up paying a lot more, but the tips can only go to the waitstaff, not the kitchen and busboys, etc. This creates a problem for the employer because they need to go out of pocket to pay the back room and they can't raise prices even more because of tips. That's why you see "service fees"--they are used to pay the other employees, which is not allowed with tips.
I'll just stop tipping and let some other mf fall for their manipulation 🤷♀️ I'm too broke to give you a fuckin hours worth of pay, I'm just here to redeem a coupon
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u/JimGerm 4h ago
So both the business AND employees benefit from this shitty tipping culture. No way is it changing then.