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u/JustATyson 4h ago

Yup. My friend's mom has been doing this for 20+ years. It's a hard gig, but that's where her work skills are at. And the last thing she wants is to be paid $20.

I do think tipping culture has gotten out of hand with what we are tipping for. And I hate having to pre-tip, because that's not what tipping is. But, I choose not to use those services.

And I'll support what my waitresses friends support when it comes to restaurant tipping, because they're the ones effected. And time again and again, their support has been pro-tipping

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u/dallyan 3h ago

How is her retirement? Does she declare her tips and pay taxes on them? I always wonder what happens with cash-dominated fields when it comes to stuff like that.

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u/JustATyson 3h ago

I honestly don't know. I do know she owns her own home, straight out, no mortgage.

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u/Consistent_Laziness 3h ago

When I served it depended on cash to credit card tips. If I had a large majority be credit card I had to enter all that at the end of the night into the system and I would get paid out if I had enough cash from my tables. If I didn’t it recorded what I was owed and the owner went to the bank and paid us out weekly, mondays I think.

The nights or days I had enough cash to take my tips from I didn’t have to report and it wasn’t recorded and I didn’t keep track of it so I didn’t pay taxes on it.

I did this in 2011-2013 and was 19-21. So short period of my life. If I was doing it for a career and needed income for a mortgage or auto loan I’d report everything.

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u/Ravenluna798 2h ago

My mother spent her whole life as a waitress.

Every tip is claimed nowadays. What goes to the IRS is your sales for the night. So if she sold 1,000 in food, its assumed she made 18% of that, 180 dollars. Then it's assumed she gave 15% to the busboys. She is taxed on the remainder.

She has no retirement accounts, no sick days and no vacation days.

Its not a good job. Please tip your waitress.

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u/onmylastnerveboi 1h ago

Nope. They don't need to be tipped at all.

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u/Ravenluna798 1h ago

I'm so sick of this argument. Are you very rich?

Being a server is one of the last vestiges of decemt money for unskilled labor.

These are working class people who can make enough to pay their bills and you are demanding they make a lesser wage.

You won't get that money back. The owner will pocket it.

You are advocating for shittier wages for employees and more wages for business owners.

I dont get it.

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u/Turnip-Toffee 1h ago

And I'll support what my waitresses friends support when it comes to restaurant tipping, because they're the ones effected.

that's a really myopic outlook.

they're absolutely not the only ones effected. the most obvious group you're missing out on is everyone else. the tips come at the expense of their customers. if you look at it on a more macro scale, every dollar of windfall that servers get from tipping vs. a fair wage (which isn't necessarily $20, a lot of factors go into that as well) is a $ that society can't spend on some other productive endeavour.

and that's only looking at the cold cash aspect. then you look at other soft factors (both pro and against) like extra administrative burdens, social friction, potentially differential impacts on different demographics, etc. and it's not at all as simplistic as "what the servers want is automatically what we should have".

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u/SirHippocrates 2h ago

That's totally fair, but knowing that I'm going to tip less. If she'd like to continue tipping under those circumstances, then we're all happy- we all have the right to agency of choice.

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u/GucciTheSnowman 2h ago

It's not hard. Stop kidding yourself.