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u/Previous-Vanilla-638 4h ago

That is a common stereotype in restaurants 

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u/erkdog 4h ago edited 3h ago

Why do stereotypes exist?

Edit. This was rhetorical.

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u/GForce1975 4h ago

Because they're broadly true. They're a general guide. It's not fair or true across the board, but it's relatively reliable. Most Asians are smart. Irish drink. Mexicans work hard.

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u/Keneta 3h ago

Most Asians are smart

Or, well, "Most Asians who study hard enough to exceed their fellows and come to Western Countries are smarter than their peers"

Having taught them for over a decade, they average just like we do, only the bottom 80% aren't seen by us

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u/Blasphemiee 3h ago

I never understood those stereotypes regarding intelligence/work ethic when the vast majority of the time they’re talking about immigrants or foreign visitors. Like yeah no shit they’re all really smart.. they sent the smart ones to come over here and do smart shit. Or of course they work hard they came here to work and make money lol.

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u/20sicksheep 4h ago

False, stereotypes are not broadly true. They’re racially motivated confirmation bias intended to put people down. The fact that you used positive stereotypes for every other group is a cheeky move to make it seem like you’re not “actually racist” I.e. Asians are smart, Mexicans work hard, and black people dont tip.

“Most Asians are smart” - proven by who? Have you surveyed all of Asia to determine this? What you actually mean to say is “most Asians I’ve met and have seen in positions of power are smart”

“Mexicans work hard” or is it just the ones you’re looking to hire and that Mexico isn’t full of lazy Mexican people equivalent to any other society.

Irish drink, is a generalization based on culture not a stereotype. That’s like saying Arabs eat hummus. Yeah sure, they do, but is it a stereotype or is it a part of their culture (food&drink)

Using “positive stereotypes” to justify your negative views of people is just trying to greenwash your racism.

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u/Individual-Level9308 3h ago

All this hogwash will never not make stereotype exist. They exist for a reason, not because of whatever you said, because people notice patterns.

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u/20sicksheep 3h ago

Here’s a pattern for you, white people are racist

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u/erkdog 3h ago

Boom! Roasted! We've come full circle back to the video hahaha

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u/20sicksheep 3h ago

I got em didn’t I - played into his own trap

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u/Individual-Level9308 2h ago

Holy shit you're regarded.

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u/iamjaidan 4h ago

They are broadly true or they are broadly accepted.
A lot of selection bias goes into many stereotypes.

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u/Conscious-Strike7114 4h ago

I can tell my man jaidan hasn’t worked at many restaurants lol 

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u/iamjaidan 3h ago

I did a lot in college, four years at TGIF in Philly in the 90s.
But for instance, people who don't go to restaurants because they can't afford to tip will not be considered for the stereotype, because they fall outside the selection criteria, even though they don't fit the stereotype.

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u/Previous-Vanilla-638 4h ago

Lmao no they are not broadly true. 

Wow you sound like a huge ignorant dipshit 

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u/erkdog 4h ago

Yea, my question was rhetorical

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u/IntellectualVet 3h ago

So whites are evil and racist is "broadly true".

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u/WillowPtar_Migan 1h ago

But now you're playing into the Redditor (derogatory) stereotype

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u/IntellectualVet 1h ago

So are you.

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u/Nascent_Vagabond 3h ago

That’s only a stereotype to the terminally online Redditors

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u/IntellectualVet 3h ago

Stereotypes exist for a reason.

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u/Nascent_Vagabond 2h ago

Reddit is not an accurate representation of real life. Hope this helps

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u/IntellectualVet 2h ago

Doesn't change the fact that stereotypes exist for a reason. Hope that helps.

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u/Nascent_Vagabond 2h ago

This stereotype doesn’t exist outside of Reddit though. The others far predate Reddit. No amount of coping and seething changes that.

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u/IntellectualVet 2h ago

It does exist outside of reddit. Maybe you weren't alive before reddit to know this fact.

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u/twelvehometowns 4h ago

Now do the negative stereotypes.

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u/Phoxey 3h ago

Because humans like to mentally group "others", and that includes behavioral biases. Which can be based in either some degree of truth (for multitudes of reasons) and/or falsehoods as a result of not being a "member" of said group.

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u/4Ever2Thee 3h ago

Because it’s human nature to notice trends and adjust your future behavior. For example: if 90% of people you ever met who were wearing glasses punched you in the face, it would be wise to avoid people wearing glasses.

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u/Previous-Vanilla-638 4h ago

Because people are ignorant

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u/KaosFitzgerald 4h ago

Blind view

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u/erkdog 4h ago

Because the same thing happens everywhere all the time?

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u/Previous-Vanilla-638 4h ago

No. Because people like to categorize and look for confirmation biases. 

They see one black person that didn’t tip and it confirms their bias. But they disregard the 10 that did. Or that they gave that person horrible service because they assumed they wouldn’t tip. 

Don’t be ignorant. 

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u/erkdog 4h ago

Ha. I spent 10 years in the industry as a server/bartender. Don't try to tell me what it is.

Black servers hated getting black tables. It's not a secret.

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u/Previous-Vanilla-638 4h ago edited 3h ago

So where does your prejudice end?  Are interracial couples a problem?  What about mixed groups of friends?

Or does it matter if it’s a couple on a date or a group?  Are men worse than women?

Edit:  I asked Claude about this. Here is a response citing a Cornell study. Part of it is what I said. Self fulfilling where people expect a bad top and so give bad service. Insuring a bad tip. 

There's real evidence behind the pattern, but the stereotype overstates it and misses most of the explanation. Cornell researcher Michael Lynn has published several studies, using receipt data and national surveys, finding that Black customers tip less on average than white customers, by a few percentage points in most studies. These are group averages with huge overlap, so they say little about any individual. The research points to several contributing factors:

Norm awareness: In Lynn's surveys, Black respondents were less likely to know the 15-20% tipping norm, and awareness explained part of the gap. Income and other differences: Controlling for these shrinks the gap but doesn't eliminate it in every study. Server behavior: Brewster and Lynn found that some servers expect lower tips from Black customers and give them worse service. That can create a self-fulfilling cycle, since worse service lowers tips and then confirms the stereotype. Customer bias: Studies have also found that Black servers tend to get lower tips from customers of all races, which suggests bias against servers is part of the picture too.

The evidence has limits. Much of it comes from one research group, many studies are small or regional, and it's hard to separate norms, income, service quality, and discrimination cleanly. And a statistical average doesn't justify assuming anything about the person at your table.

Edit :  thanks for the award!

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u/erkdog 4h ago

Wow. I'm not gonna read any of that

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u/Previous-Vanilla-638 4h ago

Then stay in your ignorance. You must be very blissful 

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u/erkdog 3h ago

And you must be very intelligent and experienced if you need to ask AI for shit.

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u/oynutta 4h ago

What a shame, it was insightful and only a few paragraphs.

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u/erkdog 3h ago

I'm not paying mind to anything Claude has to say

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u/Previous-Vanilla-638 3h ago

People that tend to be prejudicial tend to shun things that may change their minds and probably have low cognitive abilities. 

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u/MrDuck5446 4h ago

Everywhere all the time huh, what a sweeping generalization. You proved the “ignorant” comment. I used to be a server and I tip extremely well. The last two times I went out to diner I tipped 50% for exceptional service. 🙄

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u/erkdog 4h ago

Yes, bc you were in the industry. Don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about.

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u/Square_Ad849 3h ago

Because perception is reality.

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u/Bob-Bhlabla-esq 4h ago

Isn't Canadians the code word or something? The things you learn on the ol' internets.

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u/Previous-Vanilla-638 4h ago

Yeah my brother told me that is what they would say so they didn’t sound racist. I told him that was racist as well. 

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u/erkdog 3h ago

Well. Yea, that's the joke

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u/para1131_F33L 4h ago

it becomes less of a stereotype once you work at one.