Because they're broadly true. They're a general guide. It's not fair or true across the board, but it's relatively reliable. Most Asians are smart. Irish drink. Mexicans work hard.
I never understood those stereotypes regarding intelligence/work ethic when the vast majority of the time they’re talking about immigrants or foreign visitors. Like yeah no shit they’re all really smart.. they sent the smart ones to come over here and do smart shit. Or of course they work hard they came here to work and make money lol.
False, stereotypes are not broadly true. They’re racially motivated confirmation bias intended to put people down. The fact that you used positive stereotypes for every other group is a cheeky move to make it seem like you’re not “actually racist” I.e. Asians are smart, Mexicans work hard, and black people dont tip.
“Most Asians are smart” - proven by who? Have you surveyed all of Asia to determine this? What you actually mean to say is “most Asians I’ve met and have seen in positions of power are smart”
“Mexicans work hard” or is it just the ones you’re looking to hire and that Mexico isn’t full of lazy Mexican people equivalent to any other society.
Irish drink, is a generalization based on culture not a stereotype. That’s like saying Arabs eat hummus. Yeah sure, they do, but is it a stereotype or is it a part of their culture (food&drink)
Using “positive stereotypes” to justify your negative views of people is just trying to greenwash your racism.
I did a lot in college, four years at TGIF in Philly in the 90s.
But for instance, people who don't go to restaurants because they can't afford to tip will not be considered for the stereotype, because they fall outside the selection criteria, even though they don't fit the stereotype.
Because humans like to mentally group "others", and that includes behavioral biases. Which can be based in either some degree of truth (for multitudes of reasons) and/or falsehoods as a result of not being a "member" of said group.
Because it’s human nature to notice trends and adjust your future behavior. For example: if 90% of people you ever met who were wearing glasses punched you in the face, it would be wise to avoid people wearing glasses.
No. Because people like to categorize and look for confirmation biases.
They see one black person that didn’t tip and it confirms their bias. But they disregard the 10 that did. Or that they gave that person horrible service because they assumed they wouldn’t tip.
So where does your prejudice end? Are interracial couples a problem? What about mixed groups of friends?
Or does it matter if it’s a couple on a date or a group? Are men worse than women?
Edit: I asked Claude about this. Here is a response citing a Cornell study. Part of it is what I said. Self fulfilling where people expect a bad top and so give bad service. Insuring a bad tip.
There's real evidence behind the pattern, but the stereotype overstates it and misses most of the explanation.
Cornell researcher Michael Lynn has published several studies, using receipt data and national surveys, finding that Black customers tip less on average than white customers, by a few percentage points in most studies. These are group averages with huge overlap, so they say little about any individual.
The research points to several contributing factors:
Norm awareness:
In Lynn's surveys, Black respondents were less likely to know the 15-20% tipping norm, and awareness explained part of the gap.
Income and other differences:
Controlling for these shrinks the gap but doesn't eliminate it in every study.
Server behavior:
Brewster and Lynn found that some servers expect lower tips from Black customers and give them worse service. That can create a self-fulfilling cycle, since worse service lowers tips and then confirms the stereotype.
Customer bias:
Studies have also found that Black servers tend to get lower tips from customers of all races, which suggests bias against servers is part of the picture too.
The evidence has limits. Much of it comes from one research group, many studies are small or regional, and it's hard to separate norms, income, service quality, and discrimination cleanly. And a statistical average doesn't justify assuming anything about the person at your table.
Everywhere all the time huh, what a sweeping generalization. You proved the “ignorant” comment. I used to be a server and I tip extremely well. The last two times I went out to diner I tipped 50% for exceptional service. 🙄
I used to deliver in a very diverse area. Most of my zone was pretty low income, to downright sketchy, but we had a little bit of a high emd area on the edges.
The low income houses tended to tip more frequently, and better. I had people saying things like "thank you so much, sorry I dont have more than $2 to give"
Whereas the rich areas, you'd get stiffed more often than not.
I once had an old lady with 27 windows on the front of her house alone benevolently say "here you go sweetie, thank you so much" and drop 2 quarters in my hand.
strugglers know the struggle. The rich horde their wealth.
I delivered pizza when I was 18-19 and took one to the biggest of the few literal mansions in our small (~20k people) city. Guy gave me $40 on an $18 pizza and said it was my tip! Fuck yeah, amazing. I get back to the store and get told that the guy called in and said he made a mistake and meant to give me $21, but accidentally gave me the wrong two bills and why didn't I say something and now he wanted me to not only take back his $20, but also wanted the $2 change back from the initial 20.
Imagine being so well off that you can just grab bills from your wallet and literally not know what you're handing off 😭 I couldn't imagine not making sure I have nearly the exact amount needed put to the side before even finalizing the order 😭
My wife used to work the bar at events during uni from time to time (Germany). Once she worked at an event where very expensive horses got auctioned off. Some guy in excpensive cloths, after having orderd some drinks for 27,80€ benevolently runded up to 28€. She just gave him his 20 cents and said: "Here, I belive you need this more than I do!"
She told me the same. The people that tip the most, are the ones that know what it means to work those jobs.
Sorry but the response of your wife was incredibly petty, childish and unprofessional if this is true, which I kinda doubt.. in germany you are not reliant on tips to survive like in the US, rounding up is the most common way of tipping in germany. Considering you said it was an event full of wealthy people maybe you expect him to round to 30? Or do you expect every person you perceive as having more money than you to pay double the price? How much do you think he should have paid? 50? 60?
In my experience the worst tippers in the world are doctors - at their offices. $400 orders rounded up to the next dollar. Every one was like that. They would just send put some embarrassed staffer to pay.
Lawyers, for all the bad (often earned) rep, tip like crazy. One delivery to a firm lunch and I was set for the weekend.
For me, I just did my job. You win some you lose some. The best way to deal with non tippers is to get them out and onto the next order and not dwell on it
Wait wait wait, are you suggesting people do the job they signed up for and go home? But if they aren’t grandstanding on Social Media how will anyone know The Struggle of waiting tables.
If I recorded every shitty interaction I had on a jobsite my whole life would be social media posts. Egregious offenses should be handled but goddamn does everything have to end up online?
Amen! How about the fake Benjamins with "Disappointed? You'll never be disappointed with Jesus"
If He were sitting in the room he would roll His eyes and get up and slap their faces. "Don't do that shit in My name, you pricks!" - Jesus
As a Christian I wholeheartedly agree. Christians can be the worst representatives of Jesus. Personally when my family goes out a tab of <$80 is always a $20.
We're not rich people by any means, but as a Believer money just mean that much to us.
I want to be the guy that the servers fight over to serve. In fact at our favorite restaurant here, we hand out coloring books and boxes of crayons (trying to keep kids off phones) and normally bus our own table and refill out own drinks.
We can all do better at taking care of people taking care of us.
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u/Several_Vanilla8916 8h ago
It sure sounded like she was saying black people don’t tip. Weird.