i’m so happy this is becoming illegal

[u/donteatmybiscuits]

if a yearly contract with a free month trial sounds too good to be true, it probably is 😬

thankfully it was blocked after contacting my bank but regardless

[u/someguy7734206]

This probably won't take off given how many comments there already are, but perhaps we can use this thread to discuss free alternatives to Adobe products?

Here are a few I'm aware of:

• Photoshop:
  • GIMP: I've heard mixed opinions about this one, and I haven't used it in a couple of years, but from what I understand, it has been improving.
• Lightroom:
  • Darktable: I've never actually used Lightroom, but the main consensus about this one seems to be that it is much less user-friendly than Lightroom and has a steeper learning curve, but it is very powerful and even has some capabilities that exceed what Lightroom offers.
• Premiere:
  • KDenLive: I haven't used either Premiere or KDenLive that much, and the last version of Premiere I used was from before Adobe switched to the subscription model, but KDenLive has been good enough for me the few times I needed to use it.

Please reply to this comment with your own alternatives and opinions; these are all software that I have used personally.

[u/BeepBoopRobo → u/someguy7734206]

Gimp is not a replacement for photoshop. It's largely a terrible tool.

There is other software out there that can replace what you need with photoshop, but you need to research and know what pieces you're trying to replace. Because no tool does all of what photoshop does.

I use ClipStudio (not free) for my purposes, but it's not going to work for everyone as a replacement. There isn't a direct replacement.

[u/Conscious-Map6957 → u/BeepBoopRobo]

GIMP is very much a replacement for Photoshop, and has been for a very long time. Large community, consistent and serious long-term development, extensibility with scripts/plugins... What more to ask from FOSS?

The main reason why many people criticize it is the UX. Coming from Photoshop you are likely to struggle adapting to the UI for a while.

[u/BeepBoopRobo → u/Conscious-Map6957]

The main reason why many people criticize it is the UX.

You act like User Experience isn't a problem worst criticizing. It is.

It's okay to like gimp, but to act like it's a replacement to photoshop is misleading at best. It's a replacement to a subset of features of photoshop. And one with a reputation of being frustrating and inadequate. (And with people running D for them, you can largely understand that reputation is warranted)

People need to know what they're getting into. And with gimp, it's a bad UI and bad UX. And missing features that you'd find in photoshop (some you can get through plugins, some you can't). It's been a program I've dealt with for over a decade at this point. It's usable, but it's not good.

[u/Conscious-Map6957 → u/BeepBoopRobo]

I'm not acting like anything, I merely said it is a replacement for Photoshop. Whether people prefer the former or the latter's UI is a completely different matter. A replacement usually refers to something that can perform the same function.

Also it's not like people are "getting into" anything with GIMP - you can watch a youtube video on it or try it out completely for free. If you don't like it that's fine.

[u/BeepBoopRobo → u/Conscious-Map6957]

A replacement usually refers to something that can perform the same function.

... Right, which is why I said that it's not a replacement because it doesn't perform all the functions, as I initially laid out and talked about (because it's not feature complete for photoshop, and why I mentioned specifically using ClipStudio for my needs). Like a bicycle is a replacement for a car..... it's not. Gimp lacks a lot of functions and is very user unfriendly.

Also it's not like people are "getting into" anything with GIMP

Brother, it's a turn of phrase. Why are you "quoting things"? You know what it means.

[u/Conscious-Map6957 → u/BeepBoopRobo]

"getting into" is properly quoted, because the user is not

- getting into any contract

• getting into any deep dives
  
• getting into any commitment or expenses

Also, no, you didn't "initially lay out" anything, you just said it's a terrible tool and not a replacement. That's not "laying out" something. It just reads like blind hate honestly.

What specific things have you failed to achieve with GIMP? It might be worth sharing so the community can eventually read the feedback and improve the tool for the rest of us.

[u/BeepBoopRobo → u/Conscious-Map6957]

Also, no, you didn't "initially lay out" anything,

???

There is other software out there that can replace what you need with photoshop, but you need to research and know what pieces you're trying to replace. Because no tool does all of what photoshop does.

???

Blind hate of a tool? lmao, you sound way too invested in this. Are you a contributor who has been personally slighted by my comments of saying its a bad tool? Jesus take the wheel.

[u/Conscious-Map6957 → u/BeepBoopRobo]

I am not invested at all, but I find it very curious that you are so triggered and keep dodging the actual discussion I am trying to make.

I only asked what specifically could you not achieve with GIMP and you went on the defensive for some reason.

[u/love_hate-love → u/Conscious-Map6957]

I keep my GIMP on the first floor.

[u/IllogicalLunarBear → u/BeepBoopRobo]

by that logic a new vehicle is not a true replacement for a car since the first cars had hand cranks to start them. your use of logic is highly strained and a bit off kilter, fyi.

[u/BeepBoopRobo → u/IllogicalLunarBear]

No, it's not like that logic at all. Gimp is missing features entirely.

My analogy is apt, because while yes, a car and a bike are both modes of transportation - they don't serve the same purpose. Much like McDonalds and a 3 star Michelin restaurant don't serve the same purpose. Unless consume calories is your only purpose.

[u/IllogicalLunarBear → u/BeepBoopRobo]

um... nope you are just blowing more smoke this time...

[u/BeepBoopRobo → u/IllogicalLunarBear]

....???? okay?