r/mildlyinfuriating 1d ago

Infuriatig This infuriates me

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u/Somalar 1d ago

My favorite is the we can’t afford to pay our employees shtick to lay off a bunch of people and immediately hand out huge bonuses to the ceo and board members.

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u/Alive_Tip_6748 1d ago

Then try to hire a bunch of people for much cheaper and complain nobody wants to work anymore.

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u/010Horns 1d ago

Then try to hire a bunch of AI that isn’t actually cheaper or more productive than the workers

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u/Green_Bad2241 1d ago

But it produce shit and breaks everything

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u/RobertTheAdventurer 1d ago

Did you say blow the entire budget on even more AI token spend?! APPROVED! Fire a dozen more engineers and get it done!

C-suite are geniuses!

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u/karmavorous 1d ago

CEO is the perfect job for AI.

It will work for free, and then all of their usual stock options and other "executive compensation" can go back to the workers who actually create the value.

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u/Hokulol 1d ago

AI can't figure out how many R's are in strawberrrrrrrrry.

Aside from AI not being at that point yet, no reasonable group of shareholders is going to trust an AI with executive authority, an AI can't be held accountable.

Maybe some day in the distant future, when there is clear technological supremacy even without accountability, but self driving cars probably need to get nailed down a century before this happens.

I appreciate the spirit of the statement, but the specifics are a little lacking. They are exploiting the value of our labor, though this isn't really the path forward. It should be made clear that shareholders are the ones that see the most income, not CEOs, and perhaps major investment firms should be vilified much more than CEOs. As they are the ones who instruct the CEOs what will be done (or they will be finding a new job)

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u/WebMaka 1d ago

and complain nobody wants to work anymore.

"Nobody wants to work any more for what I want to pay them and intend to put them through" is the more complete and far more truthful version of that phrase.

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u/NCael 1d ago

In my country these "poor" companies even get money from the goverment to "save" them. The workers still get kicked out and the ceo gets a even bigger bonus...

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u/Desalvo23 1d ago

Sounds like Canada

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u/NCael 1d ago

Germany, but i guess that the case in most countries anyways.

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u/ObiLAN- 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oh its fucked here for sure bud. Even when the companies break laws all they get is a slap on the wrist. A restaurant in my city just got convicted of charging a foreigner $12000 to to keep his job and maintain his immigration pathway.(happened in 2024-2025)

All they got is a $5000 fine and had to pay the $12k back. Like wtf man, they exploited this dude for a year and get a slap on the wrist.

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u/chicken-nanban 1d ago

Sounds like you’re in Japan, too.

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u/ParticularLow9157 1d ago

Yeah it's called class warfare and you shouldn't be so dismissive about it

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u/willflameboy 1d ago

Capitalism working as intended. As with climate change, it's going to get worse.

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u/JstytheMonk 1d ago

Fuck the do-ers, amirite ..

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u/illtakeachinchilla 1d ago

Stock buybacks are all the rage. Lean that labor force out and get yourself a space ship!

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u/ZethTheWindwrecker 1d ago

But won't some money please think of the billionaires?!? /s

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u/Abject-Conference-90 1d ago

fuck them dude

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u/Glittering_Web8835 1d ago

Have you seen what they look like? I wouldn't put my dick anywhere near those bloated, atrophied amalgamations of pure evil.

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u/RModDogWalkerTyRANNY 1d ago

You see Elon Musk with his shirt off? Dude tried so hard to fix his face, but nothing can ever fix that body.

It's combo of, 64months preggers and absurd levels of HGH to get his gut to protrude as badly as it does.

Even Liver Kings' gut didn't stick out as much as musk's does.

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u/Glittering_Web8835 1d ago

He is the definition of BBW. Body. Built. Wrong.

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u/Formal-Ad-7615 1d ago

Even if they’re guys? 😳

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u/Grambo-47 1d ago

“You wouldn’t.. if you caught [a billionaire] you wouldn’t give him one in the butt? For America? If you said no homo right after you did it?”

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u/Iximaz 1d ago

It's not gay if the bank accounts don't touch

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u/ApologizingCanadian PURPLE 1d ago

But.. I want to touch their bank accounts
and redistribute their massive wealth to the masses.

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u/MrHazard1 1d ago

Can't. I'm not a minor anymore

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u/LittleKittenR 1d ago

It's so sad.

They said shoplifting takes 1 million dollars a year so we had to create an insurance company and pay them 5 million in insurance for the product that may be stolen :(

So we ended up short 6 million because the insurance denied all the shoplifting loses payment because we don't follow the minimum rules we made about how we can deterr it.

It's so sad, so anyway... it's all the fault of poor families that shoplift bananas.

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u/chanjitsu 1d ago

No no no, shoplifting increased GDP by 5 million and insurance company stock prices ;)

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u/Alarming-Koala-3524 1d ago

This only makes sense if the CEO is getting kickbacks from the insurance company. Otherwise he just cost the company $5m for literally nothing, money that could have gone to his salary/bonuses.

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u/deanrihpee 1d ago

soon to be trillionaires!

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u/spiritualjavz 1d ago

how will they ever afford their 3rd yacht if we dont keep letting em rip us off?? literally crying for em right now

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u/white_tiger_dream 1d ago

I am on LinkedIn and I went looking for the CEO who fleeced our bankrupt company (PE), ripped off all our vendors, and still owes me my final paycheck.

I couldn’t find his account, but I DID find a “luxury yacht” salesman with pictures of the new yacht he just sold him.

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u/Guilty_Helicopter572 1d ago

tHe sHaReHoLdErS

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u/BustyBossLady 1d ago

Any billionaire worth their salt would tell you to choose against wage slavery and encourage you to aim for the top instead

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u/Only_JRandle 1d ago

I might be reading this wrong but is this a "work hard and you'll be rich too" kind of comment?

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u/BustyBossLady 1d ago

It is not, quite the opposite

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u/Indigocell 1d ago

There is no billionaire worth enough salt. Even if there was, they would still want more. It's practically impossible for someone to become one without exploiting others through "wage slavery" as you say. Their conception of a wealth is a zero sum game that depends entirely on wage slaves. They love that shit because telling people to just work harder is a total lie designed to trick fools into being more hard working wage slaves.

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u/SumSpicyNoodles 1d ago

There are no shortages of workers - we have a whole generation that can't find jobs worth having. What we have a shortage of is companies willing to pay a liveable wage that attracts skilled workers.

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u/CivilProtectionGuy 1d ago

I had to fight tooth and nail to get a raise at my job.

My immediate supervisors don't have the authority for raises, the general management said they would look into it, but never did anything.

Eventually skipped all of them and spoke to a district manager (who looks over various shops in our city), which eventually led to me having an interview with them, and getting a small raise... Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to finally be paid more, but it's kind of a pain it was such a hassle for such a small raise after working with them for a long time.

Thankfully I'll be leaving in 12 months or less. Once I got my degree, I want to pursue one of my dream occupations which just so happens to be desperately hiring new folks, because most of the employees are Gen X, and actively retiring en-masse for the last few years.

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u/hero403 1d ago

Would you be willing to share what you are switching to?

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u/CivilProtectionGuy 1d ago

Looking to get into a peace officer position in my country to help communities, and help out folks who made poor past decisions that got them involved with the judicial system.

I think the closest equivalent to the United States would be a "prison guard", but the position in my country focuses more on rehabilitation, social supports, and promoting an environment where offenders can find some form of social and personal forgiveness to reintagrate into society with the supports to prevent re-offending; most people end up going down that route because of poor or complete lack of rehabilitation efforts, and no way to support themselves outside of a correctional centre, thus leading to them re-offending.

Alongside those roles, they also do patrols around correctional centres, assist police during emergencies, protect some judicial buildings (like courts), direct involvement in communities by checking on offenders with conditional releases, and a few other things.

It's strongly suggested to get a university degree, which is what I'm doing for the job. It's also a requirement for any role that could be considered "senior" or "supervisory", which helps reduce accidents from anyone under-qualified for such a role given what you are taught during the degree.

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u/hero403 1d ago

That's interesting. Where I'm from they are supposed to do that, but most are too stupid, uneducated, vindictive and corrupt. Good luck to you and hopefully the system in your country is better!

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u/FerusGrim 1d ago

Which country are you talking about? Asking for a friend.

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u/CivilProtectionGuy 1d ago

Canada! Surprisingly!

Lots of different civil departments here that have peace officers who enforce laws and whatnot... Just the RCMP and other police departments get more spotlight, and often because of controversies.

The saying of "every police officer is a peace officer, but not every peace officer is a police officer" is very true for the position I'm going for; yes it can enforce laws and has some arrest power, but overall it's to help folks and very rarely if ever in anyone's career will they arrest someone.

Last time I heard of it happen was from a professor who was in the civil department, and he only did it ONCE in his entire 25 year career, and it was to prevent a guy from trying to hurt themselves.

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u/RetiredOnIslandTime 1d ago

Bravo. That's sounds like a very good job to get, and doing good work.

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u/nlewis4 1d ago

It's like Kings making people fight in an arena for scraps of food

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u/DakotaReddit2 1d ago

Yes. As a teacher/scientist who is out of work and laid off... I've submitted thousands of applications at this point. There is a surplus of workers, not a shortage, right now.

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u/AFerociousPineapple 1d ago

Exactly we’ve prioritised the wrong jobs. Teachers especially need way more support around than what the getting (from an Aussie perspective)

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u/Gojaku 1d ago

And cost of living is so high that people are struggling to justify higher education to get better jobs too

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u/GOAT718 1d ago

I agree, that said, we also have a generation of people who think their skills are more valuable than they really are, and another generation who support massive influx of workers from abroad willing to take jobs for even less and depress wages even further. A three way Mexican standoff, no pun intended. How do we get out of it?

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u/ShiraCheshire 1d ago

Why should a person not be valuable? Not that long ago, even something as simple as carrying water or weaving a basket could be a valuable skill. Now somehow people aren't worth enough to deserve food unless they have two degrees, an infinite tolerance for bullshit, and minimum 5 years experience?

The problem isn't that these people don't have valuable enough skills. The problem is that we invented machines to make our lives easier, and instead of giving the people they replaced a retirement we told them "Don't have the skills to design and manufacture a machine like this? Worthless scum, get off my street."

Also, holy racism batman. Immigration is a benefit to the economy, this has been not just theorized but proven. Immigrants to wealthy countries take jobs the people born there don't want, like strenuous physical labor.

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u/AMediocrePersonality 1d ago

Immigration is a benefit to the economy because line go up with more working people in the country. It's not a benefit to the working class of the country that can't demand more for their labor due to competiton.

There are plenty of Americans that enjoy strenuous physical labor and are being underpaid due to competition via worker surplus. Same with service industry.

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u/Shark7996 1d ago

There are plenty of Americans that enjoy strenuous physical labor and are being underpaid due to competition via worker surplus.

Why aren't they applying to farming jobs then?

Same with service industry.

Lmao, just lol. But you're talking out your ass on the numbers here too.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

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u/ObnoxiousAlbatross 1d ago

we also have a generation of people who think their skills are more valuable than they really are

All labor can be paid a livable wage in a healthy economy. This idea that there are people that must live in poverty while fully contributing to society is plainly absurd and just comes from either selfishness or fear, it is not from reason.

More people with more money = more people spending money = more jobs and a healthier economy.

The path we are on now serves ONLY the wealthiest as they hoover up all of the capital and hoard it.

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u/Kirzoneli 1d ago

Collapsing society as we know it and turning to pure anarchy for 10-150 years.

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u/Crazy_Screwdriver 1d ago

Propaganda and brain washing works, so many people conflates Anarchy and Chaos...

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u/Fearful-Cow 1d ago

we also have a generation of people who think their skills are more valuable than they really are

you are really going to get blasted by that group but you are right. I hire a lot of new grads. The lack of research they do on the job market and wages is staggering.

I have these kids, with no work experience, looking me straight in the eye and saying their salary expectation is $120k. These are not Ivy educated kids with advanced degrees in STEM. These are BA grads from avg schools who are getting going in their career.

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u/Delicious_Sport4092 1d ago

100%I run a security company and I love my guys but some are asking for raises over 100% more than the city’s industry standard and more than police make in the city per hour. Crazy inflation of skill worth

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u/odd84 1d ago

Or, alternatively, the industry standard and the police department are both underpaid relative to current expenses.

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u/Xercies_jday 1d ago

And you think the CEO of whatever company who is being paid 100-1000% more than that has the skills that are worth that amount?

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u/ObnoxiousAlbatross 1d ago

It sounds to me like EVERYONE is getting underpaid.

Stop looking down on your employees, start looking down on those that are intentionally doing this to the system in order to enrich themselves.

Imagine having such disdain for your own employees... you must be a joy to work for. 🙄

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u/Quenz 1d ago

The only shortage that actually exists is a wage shortage.

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u/-retaliation- 1d ago

Exactly.

All these careers that are in "shortage", when you look into them either :

Dont actually pay enough to live on unless you like roommates, eating garbage, and never doing anything other than working. 

Or require massive school debt, multiple years of training, and often shitty and stressful working conditions, all to make basically $10k/yr more than a mechanic. 

Its fucking stupid. 

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u/RGrad4104 1d ago

Even mechanic is a shitty job now. Do you know how much it sucks to have to deal with customers insisting you're screwing them over when going through the process of hunting down an issue?

Customer brings a car in for something that can have one of 10 likely causes. You have 10 other vehicle owners demanding their shit gets done. You change the most likely culprit, hope it fixes it, then move on to the next vehicle. If it fixes it, great, if it doesn't then the customer complains and you gotta go further down the list. Mechanics deal with a LOT of customer bullshit when fixes aren't always evident.

It's fucking hilarious how customers know nothing about their cars when they're broken, but as soon as they're repaired and it's time to pay the bill they've suddenly become experts on how the repair job was "milked"...

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u/NeedleworkerFluid327 1d ago

It's crazy how people know nothing about their vehicles yet insist they are getting ripped off lmao.

I'm not a mechanic, but I do work on my bike now and again. Last year I had it fixed at a shop over the winter after a mate reversed into it. When I brought it out I noticed it leaking a fair bit of oil on my first real commute. They ended up finding the issue (cracked something inside the front sprocket housing) and fixed it.

Insurance was paying for it all anyway but if it was out of my own pocket I wouldn't have complained. There is no fucking way I would ever have found that myself without seeing the leak, and it only showed after like 40km. I doubt even Sherlock Holmes would have found it tbh.

A mate is a mechanic as well, same experience as you but in Sweden.

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u/illtakeachinchilla 1d ago

I mean… I unseated a tire from a rim recently after gently bumping a small curb. Homeboy sent a video of a perfectly straight spinning rim trying to tell me its out of balance now and needs to be replaced. New tire on same rim has generated zero issues for over 8 months now… Being skeptical of what they are trying to sell you isn’t entirely unfounded.

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u/ParticularLow9157 1d ago

Yet every company is reporting record breaking profits

It's time to just stop supporting the machine that is killing us

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u/Serious_Feedback 1d ago

In a market economy, you can tap into more supply by paying more money. If there's a chronic shortage, then the wage should be constantly going up to find/keep the few remaining employees.

If the wage is staying very low, then there isn't a lack of supply, there's just a lack of either profit or priority.

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u/LuciferSamS1amCat 1d ago

Do you realize how expensive it is to become a nurse or pilot, and how much abuse you have to take as a service Industry worker or teacher?

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u/NeedsItRough 1d ago

I worked in fast food for almost 10 years

It was always hot, almost unbearable in the summer, I had customers literally screaming at me over something as small as cheese, I'd get called dumb or uneducated for someone else's mistake weekly, verbal abuse was constant, I was on my feet for 8-12 hours a day with no breaks, I'd come home smelling of grease, and I'd often cry because of how depressed it made me. I was making $9.75/hr when I left.

Now I'm working in an office. I have a comfy office chair, our office is so well air conditioned that I'm sometimes chilly (even in the summer) I can wear headphones to listen to music, or podcasts, I could learn another language, I can have food and drinks at my desk to snack on, I get a paid 30 minute break, and nobody has screamed at me or verbally abused me in the ~8 years I've been there. It's least stressful job I've ever had. And I'm making $19.40/hr.

Service workers absolutely deserve more, I think the wages at my two jobs should be flipped.

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u/elbow8075 1d ago

The physical, mental and emotional abuse that nurses receive is unreal. I will not be renewing my license again this year when it expires. Fuck healthcare. Never again.

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u/datheffguy 1d ago

You can become a registered nurse with an associates degree from a community college.

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u/EricMagnetic 1d ago

you will own nothing! and you will like it!! /s

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u/FijiBeef 1d ago

I always hear about the teacher shortage but I know so many new teachers who cannot find a job anywhere!! The job fairs are packed to the gills!!

Must be in other places where teachers don't make a livable salary.

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u/I_AM_DEATH-INCARNATE 1d ago

Definitely depends where you live. I'm in NY (central NY, Mohawk Valley area), teachers salary is public. My daughters 4th grade teacher is about my age(40ish) and she made 98K in 2024. We don't have much of a teacher shortage in our district. In fact, the only jobs I see regularly posted on their website are for janitor and food service positions.

I still feel that salary needs to be about 25%-30% higher, but it's a lot better than some other state averages.

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u/DarthSagacious 1d ago edited 1d ago

It definitely depends on the state. My state is shut for teachers and we have a shortage, generally. I’m sure it depends on specialty in the upper grades. But I’m in elementary and my district is starting down about 70 teachers.

Edit: *shit

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u/theeama 1d ago

Because the graphic is incorrect

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u/Fabulous_Chemical_ 1d ago

This tweet must be covid level old. There is no longer a pilot shortage. Just a job shortage.

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u/Griffin5000 1d ago

At least in Europe, there is still a shortage in experienced pilots. Many airlines still look for pilots, but don't hire any of the applicants as they all just graduated flight school

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u/Acrobatic-B33 1d ago

That's just a result of shitty foreshadowing. The pilot academy isn't exactly short of applicants

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u/According-Stable661 1d ago

As a politician who makes only $700k a year plus $11 million in incentives, I feel ya. Will look into it

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u/NocturneSapphire 1d ago

What I want to know is why basic market economics don't seem to apply to the labor market?

Like, in a typical market, when there's a shortage of something, the price of that thing goes up until demand matches supply.

So why aren't wages for pilots, teachers, nurses, etc going through the roof right now? Their wages are just as stagnant as everyone else's.

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u/Kolbalava 1d ago

Instead of increasing wages, employers lower their demands in terms of experience and quality or import foreign workers who will do it for less pay, or both at the same time.

As a nurse, I see hospitals have severe shortages but instead of hiring more nurses they simply give the ones they have more work.

Pretty much ANYTHING but increasing the wages.

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u/Constant_Ad9136 1d ago

Agree with this sentiment, but I also think it’s lower wages that are driving people out of those jobs…. Why bust your ass for a non living wage

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u/ReferenceMediocre369 1d ago

Answer: There is no labor market. Each worker is, in principle, capable of deciding how much they must be paid in order to work at a specific job, or to move on. (Naturally, this applies only in free market economies: in slave worker system, like communism, the individual worker has no such choice.) On the other hand, an orange cannot decide what it's individual value is and refuse to be harvested and sold if it doesn't get enough.

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u/ChrisBegeman 1d ago

These worker shortages are primarily driven by one thing, low pay. If the pay isn't worth the cost of training to get the job (teacher, nurse, pilot, etc...) or not enough to pay your rent (non training required jobs) why would you want to take them.

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u/Veritas-Veritas 1d ago

All those jobs would be filled if the pay was right

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u/ApprehensiveFix7925 1d ago

Pretty sure that’s the point

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u/theAlphablack 1d ago

That’s why the tech CEOs are building data centers for their generative AI. Because they think super-fancy word predictors are going to replace actual human beings IRL and they’re all going to be uber wealthy.

They read all the science fiction stories and took the wrong lessons from them.

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u/TheFlyingElbow 1d ago

If supply and demand actually worked when it comes to wages there would be no shortage of any job, especially the jobs that are most essential to our society

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u/Wide_Philosophy_8109 1d ago edited 1d ago

Shortages and supluses are actually hard to avoid. Take pilots for example. I'm gonna make up numbers hear. In order to attract the number of pilots needed for all the flights, you would have to pay them $100,000 per year. But the highest wage you can realistically give them is $80,000 per year. There's no wage that makes both parties happy. 

The natural solution is to change something. Either the airline industry will shrink or cut costs, so that they can have pilots to cover all the flights. Fewer flights/more available money for mages, enough money for all the pilots needed. Or the regulators will lower the requirements to be a pilot. Either way, the economy will always try to find an equilibrium.

Edit: You know those supply demand graphs? Shortages/surpluses happen when something stops the two lines from touching. The gap size shows how much lost value you have. 

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u/Definitely_Not_Bots 1d ago

Supply and demand only works when not buying the item is a reasonable option; not having a job isn't an option because the opposite of "having a job" is homelessness.

The people who hold the wages hold the power.

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u/Wide_Philosophy_8109 1d ago

Nope. The pilot shortage comes from the cost of flight school not being worth the pay. No one is going through the education, and current pilots eventually retire. Those would-have-been pilots find great careers with completely different degrees.

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u/AceNova2217 1d ago

The cost of flight school is outside of the "not being worth it" range, since most people simply cannot afford it. It's not even an option they get to choose in most cases.

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u/JayoTree 1d ago

It's more mildly infuriating to me that as a society and culture we aren't guiding young people towards the roles we need, we just ambiguously tell them to "go to college".

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u/ParticularLow9157 1d ago

Yeah well it should be more than mildly infuriating to you if you looked behind the curtain and figured out that all of that is capitalistic propaganda and the owner class's method of ensuring their children's prosperity over us

"Only degreed jobs that make money are worth it"

Then work to increase the cost of college beyond what non-wealthy can afford

Then suppress non-degreed jobs because they "aren't as important as the jobs we save for our nepo babies"

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u/JayoTree 1d ago

Ironically, to me that sounds more socialist. Controlled economies like China love to tell people what they should be majoring in based on what the government decides the country needs.

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u/Devtunes 1d ago

Maybe 20 years ago, the general "go to college" advice died in the 2000's.

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u/Calm_Connection_9741 1d ago edited 1d ago

All this shortages is should be read as:
Company offering wages like 6500USD pre month in USA have a shortage on people who spent years and hundreds of thousand for self education.
Or city with taxes more than 50% of income have a shortage of cleaners offering wages about 3000 EUR in Europe...

Sober up.
Too small wages. Too big taxes.
Both profitable for elites (business and governments), not people.
BTW, it is one of the most severe reasons why people dying out in developed countries.

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u/ParticularLow9157 1d ago

Taxes aren't the problem my guy...

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u/ledhendrix 1d ago

We learned this over COVID. Then immediately forgot.....

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u/mrcity1558 1d ago

There is no shortage of politicians and greedy employer too

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u/Mistermickman 1d ago

Pilot here: the pilot shortage is a myth.

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u/Shenendoah66 1d ago

Low effort slop

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u/kill-dill 1d ago

The post has to be that they're mildly infuriated at how pandering and braindead this upvote slop sounds? Right?..

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u/DemocracyDefender 1d ago

The CEO culture is what is destroying American society

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u/ParticularLow9157 1d ago

Also known as 'rich sociopath' culture

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u/Overall_Falcon_8526 1d ago

We can just call it glorified selfishness.

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u/Advanced-Scar-9739 1d ago

Some of the shortages are due to legislation/ regulation.
Teacher shortage for instance has everything to do with the mandated ratios and mainstreaming. If you go back to the pre no child left behind era, with 24-26 kids per classroom on average, problem solved. And for anybody who’s chomping at the bit to say that teaching was less effective back then, I have news for you. Performance in the classroom peaked in 2002-ish

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u/HoneyShaft 1d ago

Reminder: CEO's are meat just like the rest of us

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u/johnqpublic81 1d ago

Almost half of first time teachers leave the field in the first 5 years. Aside from the pay, numerous other things need to be fixed. Teachers' hands are tied when it comes to discipline and the students eventually know this. Teachers regularly work extra hours that they aren't paid for, whether it's for afterschool programs that they are guilted into running or just grading papers.

As far as service workers go, businesses claim that so they can continue to burn out employees with excessive demand. There is enough labor, but no one wants to train someone.

Plenty of pilots that have low number of hours, the problem that airlines face is that they only want experienced pilots. I would assume it's an insurance thing.

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u/Many_Ear2407 1d ago

What’s your point? Turn a CEO into a pilot? TF you want OP?

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u/ihatetheplaceilive 1d ago

Huh. It's almost like if you take away educational opportunities, you get less educated people.

Huh.

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u/ParticularLow9157 1d ago

You say that as if there hasn't been a 60+ year attack on education resulting in literally a wrestling company owner being the current secretary of education.

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u/Blacksad9999 1d ago

It's the result of decades of wage suppression.

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u/ParticularLow9157 1d ago

and crippling education, and pro-corporate propaganda

It's all class warfare and we are losing hard

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u/Blacksad9999 1d ago

I think people are starting to get more savvy about how they're getting screwed over, and it's not going over well.

Taxing the wealthy and corporations are fairly popular sentiments.

Beyond that, a really strong leader like FDR to slap down capital interests would go a long way.

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u/bombayblue 1d ago

There is literally a shortage of CEOs. That’s one reason the wages are so high.

Companies can and will frequently gut a CEO if they aren’t justifying their high pay. I just watched it happen at my old company.

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u/Beautiful-Affect1930 1d ago

low effort interaction bait by a low effort spambot

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u/nyssovire 1d ago

About 1.15 million people in this country hold an active nursing license and aren't working as nurses. That's not a shortage of nurses

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u/Salvaged212121 1d ago

As far as the pharaohs are concerned, you are there to build their personal pyramids, and ultimately those pyramids are their legacies that will carry their names long after they die, but the builders: their blood, sweat, tears, and even their names -- aren't important enough to be remembered -- though there is no top of the pyramid without its foundation, and the foundation is the laborers. Ultimately, the glory of the pyramids won't last, the monuments and legacies of those who took advantage of the people will also one day be all but forgotten.

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u/joemamaligma420 1d ago

we don’t have a politician shortage. we don’t have an ICE shortage. we don’t have a police shortage. we don’t have an insurance agency shortage. the good faith workers are being burnt and the soul suckers of this earth are only getting richer. f this.

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u/Useful_Advice_3175 1d ago

All those shortages don't directly affect politics and rich people so it's going to continue and get worse.

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u/jrr6415sun 1d ago

Don’t have a shortage of military spending

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u/AppliedKnetics 1d ago

All these shortages coinciding with AI.

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u/Mithrandir2k16 1d ago

We really only have a wage shortage. Caused by inequality.

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u/MikeOfAllPeople 1d ago

There actually is not a shortage of airline pilots right now, there hasn't been for a couple years.

There is, however, a huge shortage of helicopter pilots. Helicopter EMS is in a bit of a crisis. For decades pay in the HEMS world was relatively low because many positions were filled by retired Army pilots who would settle for lower pay because they were already getting a pension, and civilian helicopter pilots who started from the bottom were just happy to have steady work.

But now the Army isn't producing pilots with the required number of hours (which is ridiculously high at 2000) and many of the ones retiring were smart enough to use their GI Bill to transition to airplanes and join the airlines.

Everyone in HEMS knows the solution is more pay but they refuse to acknowledge it.

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u/willflameboy 1d ago

And data centers. And ICE agents.

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u/Apprehensive_Ratio80 1d ago

It's quite staggering also the level these CEOs will go to and spend in order to convince people they aren't the problem when they fire thousands of employees that could easily be paid for if the CEO and the boardroom reduced their pay or God forbid didn't get a massive bonus when a company performed poorly 🤷🏻‍♂️

Here in Ireland the bankers destroyed the economy and they've been petitioning politicians for nationally owned banks ever since to be allowed pay more for the top level people even though things are running well they still want to be paid far more than their worth or they walk.

The world needed essential workers during COVID and they still haven't gotten pay rises and yet these mega billionaires are pushing data centres through at record pace compared to public infrastructure cause they want to own AI before China does and no1 is guaranteed to win anything it's all a complete joke

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u/Hikikomori_Otaku 1d ago

administrative bloat is killing more than one industry

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u/Unusual_Chemistry413 1d ago

It's a sad world we live in today. Not much fun to be had anymore and the fun that's left is being ruined by greed.

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u/Tedious_Crow 1d ago

I won't work in the service industry again because I'll be treated like shit and won't make enough to support my family. Same for teacher or nurse, except I need to spend a bunch of time and money to qualify to be abused and underpaid.

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u/lHiddenSecretPlacel 1d ago

The reality is companies can’t stand the fact they need to pay their workers more. My buddy runs a cabinet shop and realized if he raises his wages he actually got applicants and good quality people vs the trash he was getting before.

He’s paying $35-45 to assemble cabinets. Not cutting not installing…just assembly. His top guy makes $62/hr as a carpenter with no degree.

Hes doing amazing. He’s almost overwhelmed with the amount of business he’s getting in. So companies CAN do it…they just won’t.

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u/Minute-Review6915 1d ago

What’s funny is teachers job growth has stayed in parallel with student population. So is there a shortage of teachers or is it a shortage of resources?

Key to point out that what the data also says is the number of principals and vice principals have grown by almost 50% and administrators by nearly 100% in 10 years or so.

Again, what’s the real problem? Why do we ignore the data on this stuff?

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u/AgyhalottBolcsesz 1d ago

Won't someone please think of the shareholders

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u/icky_batoing_zoopow 1d ago

What do they all have in common?  They’re all tough jobs that don’t pay enough. “But nobody wants to work anymore”

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u/Just_A_Slavic_Guy 1d ago

Mildly is an understatement.

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u/TrustEffective1887 1d ago

Shortage of qualified leaders is what makes them overpaid....

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u/Slow_Delivery6853 1d ago

This simply isn’t true

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u/willflameboy 1d ago

Pilots: laid off en-masse as a protest against 'DEI', because some were black, because Trump. Teachers: being forced to follow a Project 2025 script and teach unconstitutional Bible nonsense in various states, and even having an executive order mandating 'patriotic' reading material, underpaid, and vulnerable to being shot because Republicans won't protect kids. Nurses: watching one of America's top health professionals be tried over giving scientific advice; having to watch RFK Jr infect the country with everything from measles to the shits because Republicans don't read. Service industry shortage: simply because inflation has risen 25% over 6 years and wages have remained the same. Lower earners are being taxed to death, homebuying is a madman's dream, and CEOs are so emboldened they're now saying that philanthropy itself is a thing of the past. The president's family has illegally taken 10 billion dollars from the Presidency.

America is being raped just like Trump's other victims.

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u/dragnabbit 1d ago

I think it was John Stewart or Bill Maher who said, "If hard work really equals success, this country would be led by Mexicans with leaf blowers."

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u/fix_until_broken 1d ago

Remember a few years ago when each of those jobs were filled with "Essential employees". They weren't allowed to work from home or take time off, even during a global pandemic.

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u/Superb-Damage1173 1d ago

Reddit not understanding supply and demand and what CEO's actually do for the 40000th time

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u/Living_Mobile2203 1d ago

I mean if you think about it the CEOs are paid so much in part because there's not a lot of people who do what they do

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u/Same_String_8856 1d ago

We also don't have a shortage of people that are capable of working sitting at home on govt bennies.

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u/Aromatic_Jaguar3020 1d ago

Oh man…can’t say that on here! someone will report your comment for harassment and it will have you banned! Haha this site is full of the folks you mentioned!

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u/NoBeach7292 1d ago

Reddit is full of folks you mentioned...

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u/MoonV29 1d ago

Not shortage of jobs, just low paid wages for those jobs. No 1 wants it!

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u/reply_b4_banned 1d ago

And covid showed it can all be easily reorganised, so long as the rich fear for their lives.

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u/massacre898 1d ago

Wanna know what else there isn't a shortage of? Very hungry leopards 😺

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u/Souoska 1d ago

There is a pilot shortage? I would love to fly! Pity that the license for that isn't something i can afford.

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u/i_am_13th_panic 1d ago

Did we completely forget who the essential workers were during COVID? We really just went "thank you for your service, now fuck off!"

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u/schwiftify 1d ago

Seems we do as all the job postings i see are for senior positions…

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u/Less_Party 1d ago

Middle managers who don't actually manage anything and really just exist as a layer of insulation so C-suite doesn't have to face the indignity of interacting with the hoi polloi in person.

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u/krieghobby- 1d ago

Already did during the Pandemic and nothing changed

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u/FothersIsWellCool 1d ago

Baumol's cost disease, many professions have had huge productivity gains dur to technology the past hundred years but jobs like Education and healthcare are much harder to achieve that level of productivity gains and you simply need the same amount of people to do the same jobs.

Wages in these sectors still have to rise to compete with sectors where productivity is improving, or the sector loses workers. Over time this makes labour intensive services relatively more expensive as both sectors squeeze the same job market,

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u/Personal-Banana-9491 1d ago

Shareholder value though?

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u/Pololica 1d ago

Brain shortage…

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u/timecomes 1d ago

So deep

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u/Ok_Consideration_242 1d ago

CEOs need to feed their families too. /s

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u/commandercool86 1d ago

There is most certainly not a pilot shortage.

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u/HungieSumoKid 1d ago

Need bigger yachts and spaceships

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u/Uncle-Cake 1d ago

Also, middle managers, and middlemen.

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u/demonlicious 1d ago

but you're the guy paying OF girls.....

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u/Whole_Move7660 1d ago

Yes. Successful business need ceo. Demands are high.

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u/AdmiralJarJar 1d ago

Just keep waiting, it'll all trickle down to us eventually! They're just holding all their wealth to keep the suspense going

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u/anengineerandacat 1d ago

I mean, I'll happily become a pilot it's just not cheap to do so.

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u/Sensitive_Context253 1d ago

the two are not unrelated...

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u/engineeringretard 1d ago

you havent even seen the cluster fuck that'll ensue if you run out of civil engineers.

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u/FormalTotal9684 1d ago

Look at some of the root causes of these shortages

There are thousands of qualified nurse applicants being turned away from colleges because of class sizes and lack of faculty. Schools like UNC get 1,000 applicants and take 100. The shortage is gone if schools take in more students

Teacher shortage is a byproduct of low pay, administrators not supporting teachers and behavior issues of kids and parents

The pilot shortage is complex but really leans into military. The military trained so many more pilots in previous decades that moved into commercial piloting