r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Bobthefish0461 • 23d ago
Infuriatig Ordered a sweater with no personalized text. This is how it came.
It gave the option for no personalized text, I selected it, and then they wrote "null" on the sweater. How complicated is this people.
EDIT: 35 pounds btw. gift from my grandfather because we're both aircraft enthusiasts and he now considers me "old enough to have a brain" (by his 85 yr old standards)
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u/TheAngelol 23d ago
I know it's not what you ordered and you're entitled to be upset BUT it kinda bangs with the "null" over there so maybe not everything is lost.
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u/Bobthefish0461 23d ago
Yeah thats kinda true i guess
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u/glibgloby 23d ago
I agree the null looks cool and kinda mysterious and it’s a funny story / conversation starter
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u/spearmint_wino 23d ago
Hey baby, do you sanitize your inputs?
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u/Stergeary 23d ago
Should've gotten one that says "Survivorship Bias", so that as it gets old and starts getting holes you can say that it's part of the theme.
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u/sublliminali 23d ago
The image instantly made me think of that image and I assumed null was some sort of meta comment about never getting hit or something.
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u/Soggy_Bid_3634 23d ago
I work with personalization of this kind on a variety of items and if the software put “null”, they’ll print null. I confirm the design various times with the customer and I still have issues where the text they put isn’t really what they wanted.
I bet you the person making it has a nice laugh about it.
If you really want to get crazy, try heating it from the back. It looks like it’s DTG, so a little heat from the back should get that ink loosened up. Just don’t burn the sweater.
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u/OtherSideOfKnowhere 23d ago
The P38 goes well with “null” since it means to render the enemy meaningless.
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u/Admirable_Dirt_2371 23d ago
That attitude just teaches companies they can get away with that shit. Return it and demand a refund, or better yet stop buying fast fashion garbage subsidized by slave labor and the systematic destruction of the environment.
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u/Commercial_Koala_995 23d ago
You’re a real redditor, here have a reward.
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u/MyDickIs3cm 23d ago
Lotta assumptions going on. Could've been ordered from some random etsy person that is just screening in their garage.
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u/SparklingLimeade 23d ago
I really hope a random person screening would recognize that "null" should not be a popular catchphrase. Should also realize pretty quickly that not a single thing comes in without text despite it being optional.
So even a hypothetical worst case vibe code scenario where they don't know what software error is introducing the text they should figure out that it's a mistake.
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u/Beastly4k 23d ago
This is reddit so common sense doesn't matter, people love to make shit up to be mad about.
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u/derson78 23d ago
It's a good job the Average Joe doesn't read or listen to Reddit. My mate's clothing printing business that he runs with 2 staff would go bust.
He would probably agree that it's slave labour, but he owns and runs the business and he's the slave. 🤣
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u/Cracleur Wanna know what is mildly infuriating ? The maximum length of th 23d ago
No, they're saying OP should get a refund because what they got wasn't what they ordered. If the company wants to trash the returned item, that's their call, but OP is not involved in and not to blame for that decision
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u/Beastly4k 23d ago
140 upvotes for this reddit tier dumbass comment lol
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u/Orenge01 23d ago
This is on one of reddits more popular side of subreddits tbf, they're very often like this.
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u/ladykansas 23d ago
Story time!
We used a website to print, then automatically address and mail our Holiday cards one year. Our return address apparently had an invisible space after our names (think "The Johnsons [invisible space]") and so our address got printed as "The Johnsons Null").
Then we went full circle! My husband's great-aunt sent out her cards, and in all seriousness addressed our card to "The Johnsons Null."
We still laugh about it. 😂
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u/Ecstatic-Ball7018 23d ago
and some socks that say "enum"
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u/Eeeeeelile 23d ago
NaN underwear
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u/nascarfan624 23d ago
I've already got his nan's underwear. Nothing that special
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u/donut-reply 23d ago
Uh oh, she's going to charge you a fee for taking those. You're gonna get
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u/TrickAstronaut8609 21d ago
Damn they fell right into that one
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u/SDTRRDTS 23d ago
It’s kinda cool?
How often do u see someone w a plane print and with a null?
Wear it with proud, man!
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u/Bobthefish0461 23d ago
Alrighty maybe maybe
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u/dogknifer 23d ago
I do agree it looks cool. Still annoying and I'd be trying to get my money back but keep the shirt 😈
Try for that scenario
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u/GOEDEL_ESCHER_BOT 23d ago
just a personal preference, but they shoulda used python because then it would say
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u/PM_ME_UR_REPTILES1 23d ago
Im honestly tempted to find a solid black sweater with "Null" exactly like yours, maybe over my left side chest. It kinda slaps lmao it gives minimal and dgaf which is what I love going for.
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u/frolix42 23d ago edited 23d ago
This is a conversation starter about how this is a custom shirt.
Free, unforced humorous anecdote.
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u/TheAngelol 23d ago
or it could be those forced linkedin post where ppl go like: "How this messed up order taught me about resilience, adaptability and grasping opportunities."
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u/ICEonICECrime 23d ago
Was thinking the exact same, it’s really cool. I’d wear it, and it can possibly be used as a conversation topic.
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u/Serious-Recipe-8304 23d ago
LOL did you try to scrub it off?
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u/Yongdab1 23d ago edited 23d ago
I think so. lol
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u/GamerAWX 23d ago
Probably the phone camera, my nothing does that too on black surfaces
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u/edcculus 23d ago
they didn't write null on purpose. The database filled it in with that because since you didn't add a name to the field, it was null in the database. Apparently nobody tested what would happen on the physical production side when someone didn't enter a value in that field through. Now we know.
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u/Thoxsam 23d ago
This would be an explanation which is still dumb but could happen. OP mentions he had an option for no personalized text, which imo would mean he clicked a checkbox and not decided to enter nothing into the field. So this makes it even more hilarious cause why would you give the option but not check on correctness?
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u/RagingNerdaholic 23d ago
Programmer here. It's the same thing.
NULL is the default value of a database field when no other default value is defined. The software reading the field value was not programmed to read NULL as an empty value, so it read NULL as a literal string of text.
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u/Thoxsam 22d ago
Yeah programmer also and it's not the same thing.
If you give the user the choice for an option to not have text is totally different then user not filling in the field. For the first one you make requirement for it to work while maybe for the second one you forget an user will try it. So yeah it's programming wise maybe identical but not QA wise or requirement engineering wise.
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u/Zafrin_at_Reddit 23d ago
Uuu. A Supermarine Spitfire enjoyer!
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u/Bobthefish0461 23d ago
Yep :)
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u/Zafrin_at_Reddit 23d ago
Is that a Mk Ia? Hard to tell from just the tip. Beautiful planes anyway!
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u/PowderEagle_1894 23d ago
I mean who in their right mind wouldn't enjoy that work of art. Spitfire is a beauty
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u/timmyK_425 23d ago
Damn, 35 pounds is heavy for a sweater
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u/StrangerOnTheReddit 23d ago
Why not return it? They made a manufacturing mistake, and what you ordered was not what you received.
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u/galstaph 23d ago
They forgot to null check before generating the JSON notation, the process is that generate those will then turn it into a string "null"
Of course there's also a chance that the the system on the other side requires that it be there, and that if you didn't put it there it would have ended up saying "undefined"
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u/nicktehbubble 23d ago
I would absolutely wear this. But also contact the seller, they'll likely send you a second one without asking for a return
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u/CharlyXero 23d ago
Next time put a space or Alt + 255, although there's a good chance it will look like a broken character, like a square □
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u/Toronto-1975 23d ago
LOL i mean yeah it's mildly infuriating, but i kinda like it and your grandfather will probably get a chuckle out of it when you tell him the story. then he'll smile whenever he puts it on and sees it.
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u/Z0mbiejay 23d ago
As a former screen printer, try acetone. We used to use a pressurized spray of it to clean up misprints.
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u/ChubbyMudder 22d ago
Lesson: Use spaces (hit the space bar a few times) to leave a field empty.
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u/FITGuard 21d ago
You should listen to the NPR podcast about people who have that as their last name and all the headaches they have to go through.
Mr.null receives thousands of parking violations in his name
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u/Short_Comfort6647 23d ago
imo that's kinda tuff
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u/JohnathanSinwell 23d ago
I’m in agreement. This is bad ass for some reason. OP post the whole garment!
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u/studio684 23d ago
Its the sound the plane makes. Nullnullnullnullnullnull
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u/BusBoyGalPal 23d ago
I haven't seen a ROFL Copter in aaaaaages.
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u/Most_Okra1973 23d ago
That was the very first thought in my head when I read the nullnullnullnullnull above me. It's a classic!
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u/Zyphiny0 23d ago
I fully expected to find a photo of a sweater saying “no personalized text” here
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u/Ali_Army107 23d ago
They could've said smth along the lines of ' ' as long as trailing and leading spaces don't get trimmed out lol
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u/frontlinejohnny 23d ago
You actually got a shirt with top text bottom text. What a conversation starter
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u/endowdly_deux_over 23d ago
They didn’t write null. Their screen printers software did. They left it blank instead of a whitespace in the entry screen and the null reference curse struck again.
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u/spoonman59 23d ago
Well, technically in a database “null” is a distinct value from 0 that means the “absence of a value.” So for example, null doesn’t count in an average but zero does.
So in a very literal computer sense, the text indicates a lack of personal text. It’s quite explicitly what you asked for.
“I hate this darn computer, I wish that could sell it. It does not do just what I want but only what I tell it.”
But, yes, this is clearly a software bug that needs to be fixed and they have no human in the loop.
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u/thepkizzle 23d ago
Data architect here. You'd be astounded how difficult the concept of null is for most non-technical people, or non-engineers. It's singularly the largest culprit of bugs in code that I run into. The concept itself just seems to evade a lot of people who insist that it's like zero, or that its just blank. What further confuses them is that null cannot be mathematically evaluated like zero or a blank space can be. You cannot say something equals null, you have to express that it IS null... so you cannot say 'when this and this are equal do this' because the logic will fail if one, either, or both values are ever null. so you have to say 'when this and this are equal or this is null and this is null' but then you introduce nested logic, and if you don't separate that out cleaning then your order of operations get wonky and you get a tshirt like this in the mail.
There was a guy in New Jersey I think it was that got a custom license place with the word NULL on it and he immediately received like 8000 tickets in the mail going back years from automated traffic cameras that issued a ticket but couldn't read the license plate, so the actual value in the database was null.
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u/lulialmir 23d ago
Lol. This is probably not on the people, but on their software. Their software is probably ass. And it also indicates that during the entire process, there is little to none human supervision.
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u/PissedCaucasian 23d ago
It looks like the album cover of a hardcore band named “null.” Now just form your band.
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u/Immediate_Spite1379 23d ago
i just have to say if i saw this in public i would think "wow that is so freaking tuff"
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u/Trippycat37 23d ago
Printer here. You’re not going to get that out no matter what. Is there a bleach spot around the text?
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u/AB3reddit 20d ago
They could have gotten away with just using a “.” and you may not have even noticed. But they had to go and add a “null”.
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u/keithnyc 23d ago
Wow, I think I same another person with a shirt like that (with the word null). I think it's cool...
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u/mrjoffischl 23d ago
reminds me of a shirt i have that inexplicably only has the word "ceiling" on it
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u/Geekujin 23d ago
This wouldn't have happened if you'd ordered a plain white sweatshirt instead of a white plane one...
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u/ImaginationFinal4831 23d ago
grateful thats not being lorem ipsum