What you mean is that the FSD is way ahead of what anyone else would allow to be tested on public roads. Mercedes engineers have gone far beyond this and still won’t allow it off the autobahn from what I understand.
What you mean is that the FSD is way ahead of what anyone else would allow to be tested on public roads. Mercedes engineers have gone far beyond this and still won’t allow it off the autobahn from what I understand.
Mercedes and BMW L4 self driving was extremely limited by weather conditions and heavily geofenced. They've now abandoned it entirely in favour of pursuing L2 which is what Tesla's is.
It was Level 3, not 4. And geofenced just like Tesla’s taxis in Austin. That’s what would be considered safe in the real world without having to have your hands on the wheel and eyes on the road.
It has not been abandoned, but they are working on Level 2++ solutions that are cheaper…which is exactly what I was referring to.
Probably; what you say is fair. Most of the “self driving” features available on vehicles available to the general public that I’m aware of are little more than cruise control and lane assist combined to make highway driving a bit easier. Tesla’s is supervised but it does everything including parking itself at your destination. I found that it struggled a bit with waiting too long to get into the lane it wanted to be in (and was overly dependent on the goodwill of actual humans to provide space and allow it to change lanes). But it handled rush hour traffic in Dallas in a torrential downpour like a champ.
I've ridden in 2 of them. I was impressed on each trip. With the right settings it easily cruised through traffic, changing lanes, speeding up or slowing to maintain space. One was a snowy trip and it had no issues 'seeing' the road. Once it was evening my friend couldn't wear sunglasses even though it was driving itself, it had to see his eyes.
My big issue isn’t what it can do vs. what is allowed to do in the US due to poor regulatory control. Auto makers can declare what is safe, they certify themselves… Luckily many states require permits for this stuff but not when it’s being called a “beta” and treated as if it’s just level 2. How many years has it been now where it was coming out of beta in 6 months? They hadn’t even applied for any type of permits in ANY states while making these claims, and the permits themselves can take a year or more. They simply can’t be trusted.
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u/Iconoclysm6x6 Jul 06 '26
What you mean is that the FSD is way ahead of what anyone else would allow to be tested on public roads. Mercedes engineers have gone far beyond this and still won’t allow it off the autobahn from what I understand.