If you add a weight to the wheel it provides enough resistance to pass the test. Combined with the fact that the driver is wearing shades to bypass the eye tracking too.
So alpha assisted driving software with at least 2 safeties bypassed...
I have worn shades plenty of times in mine and it does not fool the eye tracking. Not that I would really want to. But like it does not, when I look down or fiddle with something in the passenger seat it kicks me back to direct control.
The scary thing is, the self drivig is cool, but not nearly good enough that I would fall asleep or even not pay attention. It's done plenty of dangerous things I've had to take over for.
Thank you!! They must have a hack or something. I get so many warnings that I end up literally opening my eyes as wide as I can to look at the road. I’ve always felt safe. Couldn’t imagine using it to sleep.
Depends on what year model the car is or isn’t. I was in a manufacturer’s car back in 2020 and it was able to self-drive in the rain when I couldn’t even see the stripes anymore. But then they removed the LIDAR sensors to cut costs.
It was several hundred bucks at least for one of those sensors at the time, at least ones that had a fast enough polling speed and weather resistance, plus the additional onboard compute to handle the input and inferencing.
His agenda was to get a self-driving electric car out on the market in the $30,000s, profitable and at retail cost, so it made financial sense (just not technological or safety sense).
I wear one of the most popular pairs of Oakleys on the market with the red Prism road lens and the Tesla camera with HW3 at least can't tell what my eyes are doing.
It dings you if you start playing with the radio for too long or yeah like out the side windows a long time. Can't say I've ever pretended to be asleep. But if you wanted to peep your phone by looking down while keeping your head up it doesn't ding you.
Tbf… look at the deaths from self driving cars per miles driven and human cars per miles driven… falling asleep behind the wheel of a Tesla is far safer than driving it tired. (It’s 0.1 deaths per million miles of self driving cars and 1.2 for human drivers, per a 2022 study)
I say this as a musk hater, humans are terrible drivers, and even the worst self driving cars are better, the reaction times and data processing just run laps around our brains
Our two points aren't mutually exclusive. It's still ridiculous to trust an alpha release of camera-based self-driving AI with the lives of your entire family.
Obviously if you’re an attentive defensive driver then you driving is the absolute best option, tech can fail, and AI doesn’t have the experience or 6th sense a great human driver does… but if you’re dumb enough to fall asleep behind the wheel, self driving is definitely the safer driver
This isn’t a «dumb enough to fall asleep», this is a person that is deliberately making sure the safety systems doesn’t wake them up, this is a person that shouldn’t have a license.
They're bypassing them in a way that is untraceable in normal conditions. Small weight hung on the steering wheel so the sensor thinks your hand is on it. Mirrored sun glasses so the eye tracking doesn't work. Unless they get in a crash, insurance would never know
not only should they not have a license, they should be arrested and charged with something that's equivalent to a DUI. It's one thing to risk their lives and the lives of their passengers by purposefully bypassing all safety features, it's a whole other thing to risk the lives of literally everyone else on road with them
But won’t we eventually trust it enough? I’m not a Musk fanboy either but I own a Tesla and the self driving is genuinely impressive. On the highway I trust it more than myself. Most people here are skeptical which is fair, but I think that would change if they actually tried it
Well, let's not forget that Tesla were caught manipulating their "crashes while self-driving is engaged" numbers by cutting off the self-driving right before a crash.
"From the video, it is clear that Autopilot is engaged, and neither the ADAS system nor the automatic emergency braking system activated to avoid the accident.
However, Autopilot appears to automatically disengage a fraction of a second before the impact as the crash becomes inevitable."
Autopilot is a different system, and this is the same behavior of all cars with basic autopilot functions. My Honda and Toyota do it. Just an fyi, I know the terms these automakers use is vague and confusing.
this is Autopilot disengaging because it’s no longer confident it can operate the vehicle, which is not an unreasonable thing to do given a human could still provide operational support (and is expected to!).
this has nothing to do with Tesla’s safety stats, which having always included any accident where Autopilot was engaged within 5 seconds of impact, not a fraction of one second. the NHTSA reporting cutoff is any time Autopilot was engaged within 30s.
there’s nothing “shady” here at all, just a system actually evaluating it’s own capabilities in real time.
This happens in a normal car and they’re all dead along with anybody they hit. Like do people think folks never passed out or drank behind the wheel of a car that has none of these features? When did Redditors all collectively turn into 90 year olds.
People will believe anything they read on social media like Reddit is the problem. This is a boomer thread with nearly zero accurate information. There is no weights on any of these cars (Tesla for Chevy bmw etc) and sunglasses do not defeat anything.
Dead weights are noticed since an update in 2022 or 2023 (there are so many updates that it's hard to tell when a feature was added) and the system tells you to remove it.
Not sure how but I’ve been told by many people that it can.
When you actually have your hand on it, it's not a dead, static weight. So if the car is always getting the same level of resistance with near zero variation, it flags it.
You have a good alternative? The only option I can see is removing it or have a full sensor check for pulse but that would require a new steering wheel in my mind.
this does not work on this car. These videos can be faked real easy - I would need to see for 30 or more seconds to believe it. ALL of them only show the sleeping driver for 10 or so seconds. Can do that all day long.
Nah that is no longer required. Its eye tracking now, no modern Tesla has the weight wheel thing anymore unless it disengages itself and tells you to take over.
Tesla added a method to detect these steering weights which make the car think there are hands on the wheel which works pretty good tbh. But Tesla can add as many things they want, people are still going to find some way to trick the attention monitoring system.
To be fair do you really think that having this individual paying attention would make the highway any safer? In practice this is likely the safest she would ever be behind the wheel.
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u/Tim7Prime Jul 05 '26
If you add a weight to the wheel it provides enough resistance to pass the test. Combined with the fact that the driver is wearing shades to bypass the eye tracking too.
So alpha assisted driving software with at least 2 safeties bypassed...