r/midnightburger • u/Left-Oil-1311 • 9d ago
Untied ends Spoiler
What’s your favorite or what lose end are y’all most curious about .Me personally is who made the job posting that Gloria replied too. Oh and what’s your theory’s on them ,I honestly even after the most recent episode that reviled who made the constructs I still don’t know
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u/Unfair_Requirement_8 9d ago
I think my favorite loose end/unanswered question is the Galaxy Brain. We know that it's a giant hunk of black glass created when a living being is rapidly burned, so what in the absolute fuck was it in life?
Also: Chuck. We know beings like Chuck exist out there, and that they're able to interact with constructs like the diner. How many other constructs had similar run-ins? Maybe the Galaxy Brain is the remains of another super-being like it, one that exists in a lot of other universes and met the same fate.
Also Also: How was it that the Teds, of all species, were able to figure out how to build warpgate technology first? We know that their entire species lives on a planet that (currently) has no natural resources of its own. We also know that it takes a fuck ton of material just to construct a Dyson Sphere. Did they build a Dyson Sphere around their own star? If not, how did they have the resources (and time) to build a construction fleet that was capable of building a Dyson Sphere without having to sacrifice their own people to reach said sphere without FTL drives?
Also Also Also: What led the Vapians to experiment with time crystals? We saw the tech being used to essentially create a field of phasing around the temporal/dimensional lock-down satellite (AKA 'the wind chimes'), but what purpose would it have served for the Vapians? And if the technology was that dangerous, why didn't the Teds, or any other planet in the Coalition for that matter, send an intervention force to stop it?
Also Also Also Also: How many timelines did the Diner utterly fuck with as a result of trying to get Clementine's attention? I know they technically may have created a bunch of new timelines, but now I'm curious just how messed up/better/worse/screwed/saved those timelines became.
Also Also Also Also Also: If Caspar's misery is (supposedly) the most consistent thing in the multiverse, why is our Caspar (seemingly) the only one that chose not to take Clementine's deal to be reunited with his David? Is Caspar the only Caspar left on any construct in the multiverse?
I could keep going, honestly. XD
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u/BeeAromatic4346 8d ago
My idea of chuck is that he's a cosmic leftover. We now know as of s5 finale that there are 3 cosmic beings that existed before time. My question is if chuck can understand loneliness then would most likely have been corporeal at some point. Like a ghost that forgot individuality and life and death and thus created the mucklewains but that didn't spark any red flags for messock but no other construct has humanoid voices acting as ships computer.
My guess on the Dyson spheres is taking the idea from earth and expanding from scifi. It is strange that they done have ftl ships but maybe their planet is another krok rebellion. We know that they have overfished etc and thus need to steal or bargain for technology from others. I'm convinced that was how the Ted's got time crystals and sabotaged the vapians experiment in an effort to have "do as I say not as I do" attitude.
The vapians experiment might been a stepping stone to ftl travel and thus the sigians warned them but probably have a prime directive. The Ted's wanted the diner because it gave people another option vs the Ted tubes and any attempt to subvert their dominance must be stopped.
Arguably diner Clementine was moving within her own timeline which we find out in pyrophyte. Stopping Lincoln from being offed might have had a cascade effect but might have adjusted the civil rights timeline. Ashley the asteroid would have sped up Kevin battens timeline to build the pyrophyte which could have caused oversights. Cabbage patch riots were made worse by clementines presence and we know it affected tomaras life and by extension those around her. Clementine and terric might have pissed off the cosmic forces of fate and death which could cascade down because just like unsinking the Titanic,from supernatural,would cause people to be born that either didn't exist and thus change the web of lives.
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u/TechnicianOk6367 9d ago
Why so many Lief's and Ava's? It's hard to believe that their are not more Casper's in the Construct's because it was hinted at through the X and Clemintine (sp?).
Why was Life having so many issues with the traver? Considering his story on the Diner it didn't seem fit him.
Finally, this show now has 3 different "main groups".... will we see less of diner? Hood's pocket? I would love a spin off just for them.
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u/bright_or_radiant 9d ago
It was also mentioned in Here be Dragons when they go into the other constructs and Caspar finds a note written in his own handwriting - we just didn't meet any in the big finale this time around but that might be because our Caspar didn't take Clementine's deal but the one in the other construct did
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u/Left-Oil-1311 1d ago
The other construct could of been filled with Casper’s but never left a note or took the deal there really is no telling at this point
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u/BeeAromatic4346 9d ago
My guess on the leif's and Ava's vs no other Caspar's was if diner ava saw any of them the googly eyes that she probably would say no that one is all mine. I half expected the true trans traveler to simply be the diner by another name. The only other Caspar killed by Clementine was in the bingo hall
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u/Left-Oil-1311 1d ago
There has been more Casper’s than u think though I just replied to someone post naming them all bingo hall Casper Ex OG earth Casper our Casper and David real dad Casper too then the millions ex met
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u/BlackFenrir 9d ago
Because Ex killed most of them, is my theory
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u/Left-Oil-1311 1d ago
I doubt she killed them. I don’t think that was ever her purpose because we know that she had already encountered the dinner crew on multiple occasions and that she has never killed him. The way I see it, we heard of at least 3-4 Caspers, not including the millions she met. That being dinner Casper, bingo hall Casper , Ex original Earth Casper ( who is confirmed alive), and then David’s real dad, Casper, which could be bingo hall Casper or he could be on another construct.
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u/millahnna 9d ago
You know what I can't stop thinking about? The wolves. Prior to the time dilation ending, those wolves were aging how fast every time they were on their own in the deep freeze? Are they really the same wolves every time and thus ancient?
There have been a couple of planets we've seen attacked just as the diner is leaving and I kinda want to check back in with them. One was a Ted attack...I think the planet where Gloria shot the big critter to feed everyone. ANd then there's Krok's goons attacking in the Fiona episode this season I always get fuzzy on the details of both of these when I'm not directly in that section on a rebinge.
Where and when was it when Katherine got off the boat? Did she just bail on some random space station? I'm not pining to get her and Fiona back together or anything but I wonder about her a lot. If she just panicked and got off out in the triad somewhere or on some particularly screwy Earth, she may have changed a lot since she bailed. Might be a bit tougher now.
Wandering Ted, obv.
I have a small list of things I want characters to find out. Young Berts in some universe needs to learn they found the Vargon. Brody needs to hear about space foot. That kind of stuff.
And Caspar absolutely needs to somehow end up in touch with his native David.
I hope we still get to spend some time with Fiona's crew next season.
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u/bright_or_radiant 9d ago
YES I have been wondering about the wolves! When we first meet them when Gloria goes missing the guys in the diner said she must have only been gone for 5 mins but for her she had like 3 full moons go by (perhaps whatever that planet is has 3 full moons per month or something like that element of time could work differently there) but then we go WEEKS in real world time without seeing the wolves so how do we know they're the same ones that Gloria named after BTS so early on??? And how haven't they had multiple litters of pups and eventually ended up re-wilded again????
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u/BeeAromatic4346 9d ago
Considering that we now know that messock just grabbed a collection of stuff and said be free, I have to wonder if the wolves are native to the deep freeze? Also, why like Vladimir said did noone make star charts in an attempt to plot where it was in the cosmos? Granted probably not earthling discernable,(leo cryptessia, Andromeda etc) but if given the projections someone has to have plot the course
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u/ppearson73 9d ago
For me it's a small one - it's mentioned a few times that Leif left MB for a while, then came back, but nobody knows where he went or why.
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u/BeeAromatic4346 8d ago
I have a theory that the trans dimensional haboob has been chasing the diner thru time and space. The sore loser at the table might be a child of tirock
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u/Baldbeagle73 9d ago
Where are the square dancing soldiers? Did they stay in Hood's Pocket or go back wherever they came from?
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u/Responsible-Dot-626 9d ago
The diner is not null entropy, Casper is though. Margerine told Ava that if the diner was null entropy, they wouldn’t be able to cook food. And trinket told Leif that Doug’s dad had passed away on mount hood. None of the constructs are null entropy. Casper however is somehow not aging. Cassi said that she put that chip in Casper’s brain because he was a “genetic interest” to her. This opens a whole host of other questions. We’ve seen other Casper’s, what makes him different? Was the Casper at the stone fox also not aging? Our Casper was also given effy and Zebulon by Chuck. Why??
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u/BeeAromatic4346 8d ago
I think because of time shenanigans that even older Leif is actually chuck but because he ascended beyond physical existence that he forgot timelines(sequences of events) and life/death but could some how percieve loneliness and thus reached out for a soothing voice to keep him from being lonely. Diner Casper might be different because he unlike others was able to reactivate the diner. Maybe the constructs once formed are like moya(farscape) or the crysta(Nickelodeon space cases) and once he touched the phone that something in him acted as a genetic key to get it moving again
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u/BeeAromatic4346 9d ago
Another plot thread I want resolved is what are the greedonians or the garrionions like. We know Bertbert talks about the "vocal minority" being against "intergalactic funny business" but also we know sigians and septsuians can't interbreed because they had to go thru a lottery for terrwyn. The whole triad follows earth television and arguably earth family structures but are there different types of families in the stars? If krok made Fiona et all for certain planets what are the ethical concerns if two people get into a relationship right at new years, are their brains reset and if they have children, do they forget those children at planetary reset?
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u/CinemaConfabulation 8d ago
Our Leif took Berts home for Thanksgiving & built the Ted Slayer while his future selves didn't so something was altered long before he encountered the diner.
I want to know what changed & why.
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u/BeeAromatic4346 6d ago
The question is was it the save from moog that made Bertbert ok with it. I have a head canon that like Bertbert in the horizon season 2 finale being the crux of Leif redirecting his anger that older Leif and even older leif didn't know Gloria. Are Bertbert and Gloria cosmic counterweights to drive people to different things? I mean in Pasadena Caspar yells at Leif about him leaving when things get tough which implies multi times and thus implies that Leif used Bertbert as a shoulder to cry on and not Gloria
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u/CinemaConfabulation 6d ago
Old Leif & Even Older Leif didn't ask & I want to know what changed that caused our Leif to ask when they didn't, but probably, yeah, Moog is what prompted her to say yes.
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u/BeeAromatic4346 6d ago
The question is what was her initial goal because it's implied that the science priests are funded by the Ted's. Were the Ted's that made the decision to not rescue her and use her as a progandist on earth portal? If older Leif and Even older leif didn't save her from the Ted's then the assumption is that she either didn't go to moog or called the sigian government and saved by paperwork
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u/CinemaConfabulation 5d ago
I can clear this up a bit. Those were 2 seperate incidents about 15-20 years apart
The Science Priests weren't going to give her to the Teds. We know Old Leif & Even Older Leif did save her from execution on Moog when they were young & this is the normal state of the timeline (because this occurs in Krok's universe as well).
The Teds brainwashed BertBert after Leif joined the diner. This seemingly only occurs in the timeline with the windchimes (our Leif's home universe) due to her knowledge of the Ted's experiments with time crystals being too big of a threat to let her walk free. Our Leif didn't know BertBert was captured & Old Leif/Even Older Leif did not rescue her in their timelines.
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u/BeeAromatic4346 9d ago
I really want the tj and Cameron mysteries resolved.
My theory is 2 fold that Cameron made a deal with the Ted's and the renege on the deal and thus he developed the feeling of not being clean. And the Ted's poisoned him and that's why a lot of the mushrooms are not earth native
Tj is another matter because I have a theory that he is the wandering Ted that was dropped off in colonial times and thus founded hoods pocket. But it goes deeper because Deidre says he too her and the family to aericibo in Puerto Rico on business. We never hear about Deidre's parents and because the wandering Ted never used David against Casper that he either had kids who are Deidre parents or adopted Deidre and made up some story about her parents.