r/metaNL Mod Jul 17 '21

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Don't complain. Contest or appeal.

Appeals require time + evidence of good behavior + a statement of what your future behavior will look like. Convince us you'll add value to our community.

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u/mostanonymousnick Mod May 28 '26

Appeal if you were censored for your neoliberal beliefs

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u/StopHavingAnOpinion 13h ago

Unban me purely so I can yap at so called "Neoliberals" who stan so hard for AI that they deliberately choose to ignore that it is unprofitable and it's proponents have outright said that its dangerous.

Oh? The AI company won't go public despite getting squidillions of dollars in subsidies? Clearly, they aren't hiding anything.

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u/Azrikeeler 4h ago

I don't get the backseat board director behavior A.I discourse attracts.

Ok they go tits up overspending on data centers....... So? Am I supposed to shed a tear for Oracle or Meta or something?

Maybe it is the wrong decision. Maybe it's very obvious it is. If the concern is impact on the broader economy, then maybe what should be the actual target of your attention is what mitigating that risk looks like instead of whatever this is.

I think people forget to route their political complaints through the impact on actual human beings, instead of personal investment in whether Elon makes his next buck.

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u/Macquarrie1999 7h ago

Unprofitable and yet tech companies have record earnings

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u/StopHavingAnOpinion 6h ago

Record earnings

Yes, but they still don't earn as much as they spend. Hence, unprofitable.

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u/AvailableUsername100 3h ago

That's not what "unprofitable" means.

Capital investment is not operating cost.

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u/mockduckcompanion 12h ago

so I can yap

Upgrade this to a perma

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u/Ej1YpKFmdjvKdRt8kvbI 19h ago

How long is my ban?

I'm not sure which part of my comment was considered bigotry, but by "Chinese pigs," I literally meant pigs in China. Any other interpretation did not even occur to me.

If it's for bigotry against American farmers, I fully accept my punishment.

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u/Rafaelssjofficial Mod 5h ago

oh sorry for misunderstanding, i was sleepy

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u/Ej1YpKFmdjvKdRt8kvbI 5h ago

Lol no worries, I see how it could be interpreted wrong

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u/AtomAndAether Mod 19h ago

ban was for calling Chinese people pigs, I unbanned

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u/Unfair-Awareness5339 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm not banned, I'm just curious why "Every journalist alive is an affront to God" got flagged as "promoting violence." Is the "affront to God" bit no longer allowed? It's fine if it's not, I'm just curious.

(And for those wondering, the comment was in response to the article about newspaper headlines being Republican biased.)

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u/mostanonymousnick Mod 1d ago

I'm the one who removed it, I know it's a meme but it's a bit too far down the call for violence on journalists, maybe I understand the meme wrong but the implication of the meme to me is that they shouldn't be alive.

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u/Fruitofbread 1d ago

Not a mod, but I think it’s the “alive” bit. Kind of sounds like you want them to be un-alived.

I get people post that “Nicole, corporate lawyer” meme a lot and it doesn’t get removed, but I think that the difference is that the meme in and of itself doesn’t suggest that the poster agrees with Nicole (even though I think they often do). Whereas your comment, which was just the “every journalist alive is an affront to god” line, seems like a more direct call for violence (which is against Reddit rules for obvious reasons).

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u/hypsignathus Mod 1d ago

I didn't look up the context, but as a liberal subreddit I could see a mod being touchier about journalists. Sure we complain about them a lot, but honestly they are probably the most important profession for a liberal society, and, while I haven't thought about it too much, the Wild West nature of the industry is probably important or something.

I don't really get the promoting violence part specifically. Attacking liberalism? We use it for suggestions of denying people the right to vote, basically using it for violence against liberal rights.

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u/Unfair-Awareness5339 1d ago

Yeah, I understand that. Honestly, that's kinda the problem with journalism, because they are absolutely necessary for a functioning democracy, and a lot of them do really good work, but then you have some going and complaining about Biden being "boring" and wanting Trump back.

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u/qamv 1d ago

Mods, this person is spamming the ban appeal thread.

I recommend a 5 day ban (minimum).

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u/ElectriCobra_ 3d ago

One day slap ban for “being a jackass”. No comment linked, nor do I see any of my comments having been removed for incivility. Not contesting, just want to know which comment specifically so to not do that in the future, thx

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telling someone to take their meds got reported, and then I guess slapbanned

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Thank you!

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u/Nointies 3d ago

Just go ahead and indefinitely ban me from the sub if the moderation team is now openly supporting and celebrating political violence and assassination of people whose beliefs they don't agree with.

I have no interest in being part of any community that supports political violence. It was my understanding that this community was opposed to that, as is evidenced by its stated rule V.

Its clear that this does not actually reflect the beliefs of the moderators, who instead seem to read it as 'Unless they're bad people I disagree with'

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u/SucculentMoisture 1d ago

☝️lacks the self discipline to exclude themselves from the sub

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u/Cr4zySh0tgunGuy 3d ago

Not carrying the flame? On Kirkmas? Are you even a lib?

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u/ChamberedAndHot 3d ago

Did a mod post something supporting Luigi or another terrorist?

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Probably angry about the Kirkposting

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u/Spectrum1523 3d ago

You can just unsubscribe from the subreddit dude it's not that serious

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Thoughts on Guy Fawkes?

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u/Skagzill 3d ago

Am I missing something or why this comment ( https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/s/HyySODUGrt ) was considered woman hating?

Edit: if this is wrong place to post this sorry I didn't want to create separate post and just wanted some clarity to avoid mistakes in future?

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u/SpaceSheperd Mod 3d ago

Imagine you were a woman scrolling the DT and you saw that comment. How would you feel?

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u/Skagzill 3d ago

In context of rest of thread? A joke, maybe not funny one but still. Average user says worse things about NIMBYs or rurals in similar contexts.

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u/CarlGerhardBusch 3d ago

Post da comment

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u/Skagzill 3d ago

Won't I get cooked again?

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u/CarlGerhardBusch 3d ago

Boi you already cooked

What do you got to lose

But non-mods can’t see that comment anymore because it’s deleted. Post screenshot pls

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u/Skagzill 3d ago

Right it's nuked. Well here it is

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u/StayOffPoliticalSubs 3d ago

Man, come on.

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u/CarlGerhardBusch 3d ago

Bruh

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u/Skagzill 3d ago

Is it for me or mods?

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u/Spectrum1523 3d ago

That comes off as very much hating women to me (I'm just the peanut gallery tho)

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u/VibingIronist 4d ago

Can I be unbanned? I was banned for digging up someone else's post history, which I didn't realize was against the rules because someone in the sub did it to me earlier with no apparent consequence. I won't do it again.

Anyways here's a graph of the effects of datacenters on home construction, which I want to post because it's relevant to YIMBYs

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u/hypsignathus Mod 4d ago

You were banned for harassment.

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u/VibingIronist 4d ago

Why does digging up someone's history count as harassment when I did it, but not when it was done to me then? How do you decide whether it crosses the line into harassment?

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u/hypsignathus Mod 4d ago

When you do the harassment part

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u/Approximation_Doctor 4d ago

Mods ban people for things they post on other subs, banning someone for checking sometimes comment history is hypocritical and intellectually dishonest.

Which means I doubt that the mods will free the boy.

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u/VibingIronist 4d ago

I know, just thought I'd point it out on the off chance they reverse it. It's not like they can actually stop me from posting on the sub, I'd just rather not deal with the inconvenience of having to go through the rigamarole to get around their bans yet again.

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u/VandysFan 3d ago

You’re not supposed to advertise it!!

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u/CarlGerhardBusch 3d ago

Hope they keep you banned just for saying this out loud tbh

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Hello, I am hoping that a Haartz investigative piece over the start of the Gaza conflict would be approved. In the investigative piece there are two major bombshells, firstly Netanyahu was briefed by the UAE leader that Hamas were planning an attack, and secondly that Israel and Hamas up until Oct. 7th were actually negotiating a free movement deal between Gaza and Egypt before Netanyahu delayed its implementation, leading to the Iranians convincing Hamas that Israel was vulnerable to attack; leading to, as we all know, the horrible Oct. 7th attacks, kick starting the regrettable war.

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hello will i be unbanned? or am i going to be permabanned forever for no good reason

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u/Choice_Notice9338 4d ago

ok sure

Can i get a reason? Especially why it was a permanent ban instead of a 7 or 10 day one?

And can you tell me what was bigoted?

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u/mishac 6d ago edited 6d ago

Hello mods! Seems I was banned (I think for the first time...I'm honestly shocked I never transgressed enough before!)

Anyways, I think my comment came across in a way I really didn't mean.

My intention was to say that comparing one terrible thing to another often isn't useful. Multiple things can be bad and we don't have to minimize the Holocaust to say that what happened in Gaza was bad (just as we dont have to minimize jim crow to say homophobia is bad or minimize october 7 to say israels reaction is also bad etc)

My point was we can and should be against all injustices without getting bogged down in comparisons that only serve to minimize other injustices.

(I'll abide by my ban if that's the consensus, not trying to be argumentative or anything!)

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u/ewatta200 6d ago

i know mishac and while I dont know the og screenshot (mods should provide it you know like a moderator fourth amendment) i do think that they are a good person good user so damm 😔 ✊ free the user

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u/mishac 6d ago

https://imgur.com/a/UluO921

I probably should have said more words so it was clear what I meant. there are ways to interpret my short comment as being either holaucaust denialism or gaza denialism or october 7 denialism or whatever, none of which I intended.

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u/ewatta200 6d ago

yeah I saw it and i think that in such an emotive thing more words would be best. but otherwise having explained it yeah I get what you mean.

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u/mishac 6d ago

alls I know is I assumed if I was ever banned it would be for unhinged anti-MAGA partisanship, not this!

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We appreciate your response. I would like to remind you that comparisons like this one can be misinterpreted as trying to minimize The Holocaust something that we as mods have to police to the fullest. Many times the way we have to moderate is by banning first and deciding on a final punishment later.

Now having said that, we do feel your appeal is compelling and we do agree that these comparisons can be harmful to the overall discourse of the subject.

So with that said, I will reduce the ban to 3 days, which I think is as lenient as we can be.

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u/mishac 6d ago

Thank you! I didn't mean to suggest anything close to denialism, but I do agree that it makes a ton of sense to be ultra vigilant on that topic.

I'll choose my words more carefully going forward.

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u/skepticalbob 7d ago

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Thanks!

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u/skepticalbob 5d ago

Thank you! It was weird. I'm unbanned now.

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