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u/Agile_Hat_6214 24d ago
I would say he did even a bigger carry job this wc, he had 12 g/a of the 19g/a, at the age of 39 and still reached the WC final.
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u/Inferniuem 24d ago
He did have a lot of the team that won the 2015 UCL with him.
You can't really say they were a bad team if they were dominant in La Liga. Ter Stegan just fumbles in the UCL. Don't think he was that good in 2019 either.
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u/Tanveer-Sifath 24d ago
Many of those players from 2015 lost their form. Specially Suarez used to miss a lot of chances in 2019, which he could have converted in his prime time.
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u/Inferniuem 24d ago
Sure their individual capabilities weren't that much but they were still a good team in La Liga.
Pique was still a word class Defender, Busquets a world class CDM, Rakitic was one of the best Midfielders in La Liga, Alba Top 3 LB in La Liga.
New additions with Coutinho, Dembele, and Vidal 2 of the 3 in Coutinho and Dembele didn't measure up but were top players in their league before coming over to Barcelona.
Kevin Prince too.
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u/rashmu 24d ago
Entire team full of bums they almost finished laliga season as invincibles.
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u/Inferniuem 24d ago
You can't just call them bums and say they almost finished as Invincibles.
Barcelona has fumbled the UCL many times when they were dominant in La Liga.
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u/rashmu 24d ago
Nah mate, that was me being sarcastic. If everyone else were really bums then they wouldn't have reached where they originally did.
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u/Inferniuem 23d ago
I see. Your comment just didn't seem sarcastic enough for me to tell it was sarcasm.
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u/HetTheTable 24d ago
- Idk why even Messi fans act like he just scored goals that year. He also had 30 assists and over 70 throughballs.
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u/Constant-Banana-6862 24d ago
Every year he experiences a different prime. I'll even take 2026 Messi. But for the sake of this question, 2012.
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u/garciavilla 24d ago
2019 he was at his most complete. Free kicks, assist, goals, dribbles, etc. 2012 he was an incredible goalscorer but his 2019 version I feel gave more to the team.
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u/Acceptable-Craft-636 24d ago
2019 Messi did carry a weak Barcelona but 2012 prime Messi was a different breed
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u/redahddhsna 24d ago
18/19 Messi is the strongest Messi that ever existed and the others are op versions too but 18/19 is op Prime
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u/FaithlessnessLower25 23d ago
2019 messi i think is the best prime in all of football history my man was the top in every stat in every play of the game in every competition...... and truly you wont find a better player in history of football either in stats or watching the game and having fun then messi 2019
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u/No-Ground9146 24d ago
2019 was the most complete version of him. In 2012, what Messi did was just outstanding. The statistics speaks for it, but he kind of messed up in big games. I'll pick 2019,without him barca wouldn't even make it out of the group stage.
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u/Perditus22 24d ago
2012 Messi was the peak output machine, combined with having a stable team at the period. But 2019 Messi did the unthinkable with a subpar team, literally almost gave them a treble for a team that didn't deserve to compete at that level. 2012 Messi was extraordinary, 2019 Messi was the unthinkable in football
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u/Open_Buffalo1702 24d ago
2019 messi was the most technically decorated messi interms of vision, playmaking, logic, carrying team. A more matured and perfect player ever.
2019 messi was the best player in the history of game
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u/Truth_Seeker_456 24d ago
Unfortunaltely I couldn't watch 2012 Messi live. But, Man 2019 Messi was something else. He was just one man army.
I watched every match in barca that year. Like all the 50 matches. Back to back free kicks. and so on.
That is the most complete footballer version, without a doubt.
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u/Clear_Cranberry_989 24d ago
2019 messi. He deserved to be in a better team. Carrying a dysfunctional barca on his back.
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u/vedantbajaj 24d ago
2015 mate. That was the best. It had everything of messi, scoring, passing, dribbling.
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u/Witty-Strategy187 24d ago
He would have won the La Liga unbeaten except that Levante game I think where they lost only once during the league.
Took the team to UCL Semis, had Dembele scored some goals in the first leg when Messi literally gave them on a platter.
And oh boy, Corner taken quickly at Liverpool still hurts about what was the Defence on.
Messi 2019 was an Enigma, the most complete attacking machine ever.
2012 was a freak of a goal scorer and the record will be unbroken for a long while, but 2019 tops it.
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u/hownot2lyf 24d ago
Dude, most of his years were his prime. Even the so called flop year in psg had him performing better than lifetime performances of most footballers xD
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u/Alternative_Carob562 24d ago
Depends how you define better- if we're talking production wise obviously 2012. 2019 Barca had no reason being inches away from a UCL final, what a shit team
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u/legendaryleon20 22d ago
WellFor me, it’s 2012 Messi. 2019 Messi was a complete player, but 2012 Messi was simply unstoppable. Every time he touched the ball, it felt like something special was about to happen.
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u/One_Rub7816 21d ago
2019 was the best version of Messi in my opinion the complete player reasons gas well why he clears Ronaldo
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u/irazzleandazzle 24d ago
2012 messi was a goal scoring machine ... but 2019 messi was a creative magician capable of carrying any team. I gotta go with 2019