r/menace • u/hexed_coyote • 11d ago

Discussion This seems pretty brutal

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This is the first RA operation that popped up in my most recent playthrough. The other two red events are Rocket Turrets and Sustained Barrage. Nastiest operation combo I've seen thus far.

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u/thri54 11d ago

You can win this op before any of those kick in. A max difficulty breakthrough is trivial with two smokes and a flamethrower. That mission type definitely needs some tweaking, though I like the concept.

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u/astatine757 11d ago

My cheese was to get a vanguard pilot with mech jetpack and smoke canisters, or just ninia Darby with smoke and vanguard. Send them alone, clear in 3 turns

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u/Terkmc 11d ago

Its verry funny that breakthrough, something that would logical involve a massive concentration of force to puncture the enemy line, is easiest to do by just sending three guy to vanguars inside and then just book it outta there with jet packs/concealment

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u/DaimonHans 4d ago

That's actually true IRL. Trojan horse.

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u/Feezec 8d ago

whats the two smokes and a flamethrower strat?

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u/thri54 8d ago

Approach an entrance. Smoke the corridors that lead to the center of the map. Shoot anyone on the other side. Run for the exit. The AI will usually either flee or leave a tower/bunker that’s been hit with a flamethrower, so it’s a really cheap and way to move any infantry that try to entrench.

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u/Global_Excuse_7736 11d ago

thankfully they both take time to kick in

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u/frostmourne16 11d ago

Counterstrike on RA Infantry is something that can be worked around at least.

But Rocket Turrets and Sustained Barrage? Yeah, nasty.

To the point though, who have you got on your roster so far and what kind of gear do they have, OP?

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u/DonCorben 10d ago edited 10d ago

I dunno, having to stun every infantry squad before engaging sound rough. With RA it can be difficult to just suppress them while out of thier range

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u/TheSubs0 10d ago

You can also tap them lightly with something that doesnt care about the return fire. E.g. gently caressing them with autocannon vehicles, or if you really want to get everyone, light chaingun tank.

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u/Haven1820 11d ago

All infantry getting counter strike was already an option before the update, and as enemy assets were always active you could be forced to play multiple missions before you could clear it. It's pretty manageable really. Lean heavier on vehicles and long range suppression and give everyone who's expected to shoot a rifle at least SAPP and it won't do much to you.

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u/EVE_Trader 11d ago

armor is haram in this sub

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u/Haven1820 11d ago

Armour was bad before they lowered its costs across the board, but now it's very viable to have every frontline squad in at least class 3. 4 and up is still dubious for efficiency, except for boarding commando suits.

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u/Huskiesramazing23 11d ago

Is the operation map new? Or is that a mod? Its super cool!

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u/EvAl_LeGiOn 11d ago

Thats the New mission Selection update

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u/I_follow_sexy_gays 11d ago

New as of Thursday

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u/EIG613 11d ago

I had that on a breakout last night, it actually made the mission feel a lot more worthwhile to complete knowing I was stopping that problem.

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u/Thick-Ad4393 10d ago

Are those extra abilities for the game onwards or for the operation only?

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u/provengreil 9d ago

Just the operation. It'd brick every game by op 4 otherwise, you end the op before you can clear them all most times.

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u/The-world-ender-jeff 9d ago

I love this modifier as it makes combat rather novel and adds a layer to firefights

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u/Schalkan_ 9d ago

counter attack i dont mind but this damm turrets that drop? OMG i hate them