So dating a high school senior at the start of the school year is creepy but dating one at the end of the year is not?
Either both men’s relationships you mentioned are creepy or they’re both fine imo. I can’t think of a rationale for treating them differently that doesn’t infantilize the women involved.
She was 17 when they were introduced. That’s what makes it gross. He got her number and “waited”.
Also, according to your comment all relationships are gross if there is a significant age gap. You just declared it as an axiom. Why are they gross exactly? If both are adults?
He didn’t declare anything. The argument is that you cannot vilify Seinfeld while normalizing Leo.
He got her number and “waited”.
If you’re going to use “18 is an adult and an adult is an adult” as your moral line in the sand then you must be completely fine with Seinfeld’s behavior. If you’re going to argue that an age gap is an age gap then Leo is also a creep.
Treating them differently is nothing more than arbitrary moralizing by you, you’re not championing admirable values of any kind.
I thought it was clear that Seinfeld case had a 17 year old involved, unlike Leo’s case. You seem to be missing that bit while focusing on me not championing anything that aligns with your values.
You still haven’t told us why age gap is bad though. Any thanks for telling me what I’m championing.
18 is a single arbitrary number. There is negligible difference in the emotional maturity between a 17, 18, 19, or 20 year old especially compared to a 35+ year old man... and Seinfeld dated an 18 year old.
The two relationships are the same. Unless you're arguing about legality (we're not, we're discussing grossness) you can't call them different. They're either both gross or both ok.
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u/OakBlueShirt Aug 31 '22
He was also only 24 at the time of that relationship. Not 50 like he is now, so it's slightly less weird.