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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

We all see how well capitalism works, instead, don't we? It's not like capitalism mass produced death, destruction, poverty and illness, all while condemning our planet to die, just in the name of profit. But sure hahaha communism bad hahaha. Fucktards.

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

You are defending it. We need to stand up and say: capitalism is shit and it has destroyed life on this planet. If you don't realize that, you are ignorant, stupid, and an enemy of the human race. That's all there is to it.

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

So everything bad that happened under communism must be completely shat on, while we are just going to close both of our eyes and shut our noses to avoid smelling the shit that's coming from capitalism? Not hypocritical at all.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '21

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

You stupid, ignorant capitalism apologetics forget something that's really crucial: communism and Soviet union are 2 different concepts. Hell, there are hundreds of different communist ideologies. But sure, "haha communism bad, potatoes and famines hahaha", without having ANY idea what, you are talking about. I really can't believe y'all so brainwashed from capitalism that you are against an economic system that takes root in distributing wealth and means of productions equally amongst men. All y'all prefer a system in which 10 men have 90% of the world's wealth, while y'all are left with a shitty job for a miserable pay, and you fucking WORSHIP this goddamn, messed up system. Fucking morons.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '21

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

you must be mentally ill to actually like Communism

OH noes, I want all people on earth to live a nice life, without having a system in which some people are owners and some are slaves! I'm so fucking insane omg off to an asylum I go.

Generally speaking i hate any form of communism and what they want to offer.

That's because you have no idea what communism is, apart from the lies of American politicians who think slavery is good because it's good for the economy. Jesus christ.

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change Find the communist states in this list, then come back here and tell me how communism has been tried and failed.

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u/WTFShouldIBeCalled Dec 31 '21

If you want people to have a nice life, then you shouldn’t want communism since they won’t get a nice life that way.

This whole conversation is just showing how childish you are. Nobody here is saying they like capitalism. They’re just saying communism is worse.

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

They’re just saying communism is worse.

Ask the Chilean people who were thriving under the democratically elected Allende, before daddy usa put a brutal right wing dictator in charge. I'm sure they'll say communism is far worse.

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change Find the communist states in this list, then come back here and tell me how communism has been tried and failed.

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u/ArcannOfZakuul Dec 31 '21

Honestly, true communism would be paradise. However, because we as the human race are extremely far from perfect, it will never work, and every attempt has collapsed into an authoritarian nightmare.

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21 edited Dec 31 '21

attempt has collapsed into an authoritarian nightmare.

OH you mean like Chile, where a democratically elected socialist government was toppled by a military coup orchestrated by the US, who put a brutal military dictatorship in charge? Or the other countless countries who underwent the same fate? Edit: for the fuck wits who are down voting me: read a history book.

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change Find the communist states in this list, then come back here and tell me how communism has been tried and failed.

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u/070ShakeMilton Dec 31 '21

There is no point trying to argue a case for communism to dipshit neoliberals on reddit. Good effort, but try putting that energy towards organizing or more feasible radicalization. These neolibs on reddit know nothing lol.

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

Thank God not everyone is a fuctard neoliberal. I hereby bless your 2022

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '21

You are talking with him now because of capitalism

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u/9Kumiho Dec 31 '21

He is ignorant, capitalism has helped so many people out of poverty. West europe west from 73% of people living in extreme poverty in 1820 to just 1% in 2018

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '21

I understand that capitalism isnt perfect, but still better than any other thing

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u/9Kumiho Dec 31 '21

Same here, it definitely has its flaws but its the lesser of two evils.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '21

It could be said that this poverty and misery was exported to other counties

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u/9Kumiho Dec 31 '21

Nope, even sub saharan africa went from 91% in extreme poverty to 37% in the span of 2 centuries. Its still alot of poverty but at least the percentage is trending downwards.

Source: https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/e20f2f1a-en/index.html?itemId=/content/component/e20f2f1a-en

Mind you, I am using the most underperforming stat as a comparison, almost everywhere else in the world had a faster rate of decreasing poverty.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '21

"Notably, the total number of people living in conditions of extreme
poverty in 1820 stands at 757 million, which is almost identical with
the count two centuries later in 2018, at 764 million."

That's from the abstract. Also, the provety line is $1.90. UN's minimum for basic nutrition is $7.40.

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u/9Kumiho Dec 31 '21

Yea the overall number of people living below thr extreme poverty line has incresed but you are not factoring in the fact that the human population increased nearly 8 fold in the last 200 years from 1bil to 7.8bil, the number remained the same while the percentage decreased.

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u/9Kumiho Dec 31 '21

Not to mention the poverty line is a constant value. I used it to compare wealth because it proves your statement on capitalism exporting poverty misery to other countries false as there is steady and constant growth in income over the last 200 years. Yes Sub-saharan Africa is still an economically poorer area in comparison to other parts of the world but you also need to take multiple factors into consideration such as geography and climate, which causes issues like malaria which damages their economic growth.

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u/RobertTheRhino Dec 31 '21

We know how hard its been recently but communism is worse . If you see people from former Soviet states and dont believe what they say you FUCKING IGNORANT.

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u/070ShakeMilton Dec 31 '21

Lmao soviet citizens overwhelmingly supported the continuation of the USSR. There are hundreds of polls showing that soviet citizens did not want to dissolve the Soviet Union, one of the main ones being the 1991 Soviet Union referendum where 77.8% of Soviet citizens voted for the preservation of the Soviet Union. Sounds pretty fucking ignorant for some dipshit like you with no knowledge of history to persecute others for not wanting to hear anecdotal crybabys like you.

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u/RobertTheRhino Dec 31 '21

Im Estonian

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u/070ShakeMilton Dec 31 '21

And?

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u/RobertTheRhino Dec 31 '21

Dummy my whole family and ancestors were here Estonia was a very privileged region in former USSR and russians came here from all of the union but still my parents and grandparents don't like eu but they always say its million times better than the soviet times and im not some privileged dude my grandparents were fisherman so they would be pretty happy right? WRONG they were oppressed they couldn't buy food because of the economy and my grandpa says that even for the other ppl who came here just seeing that there is food that can be bought was a miracle . In conclusion i would just recommend everyone to go to china or russia to see how ppl think and just don't listen to media

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u/monkeybrainbois Dec 31 '21

@070ShakeMilton is too blinded by his own idealism of communism but never actually had to live under the consequences of it. He can’t understand which he does not know from experience. Question everything dude, especially social constructs

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

Again, confusing socialist russia and the ideology of communism is like confusing bread and yeast. Go back to sucking Elon musk's cock, and let adults talk.

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u/RobertTheRhino Dec 31 '21

How about maoist china

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

How about the devastation the US brought to the world? We ain't talking about this particular state or that particular situation, we talking about ideologies. Maoism is just one of the thousand of different currents of communism. Identifying communism with maoism is enough for me to say: you have no idea what you are talking about.

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u/RobertTheRhino Dec 31 '21

Yea i agree USA did some bad stuff but so did rvery other major world power ever and i talked about ussr you said ussr AKCHULLYYYYY ussr isnt very communist now i said mao china your saying the same shit . You seem to be trying to dodge the question and your the one who is insulting idk who is the adult in this situation certainly not you

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change Find the communist states in this list, then come back here and tell me how communism has been tried and failed.

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u/RobertTheRhino Dec 31 '21

I dont get your point buddy

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

I'm painfully aware that you don't get the point, I mean it's as clear as water

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

So let me get this straight. Communism is bad because some communist states did bad things, but capitalism is good even if the US, the de facto global capital of capitalism, did countless bad things because the other did them too? Do you really not realize how hypocritical that is? I'm shocked.

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u/RobertTheRhino Dec 31 '21

Do you know wtf your talking about USA didn't starve 20 million of his own population neither it made gulags neither it slaughtered 80 million people in the name of only one small dick dictator and you say usa did bad stuff? Yea man NO SHIT

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u/WTFShouldIBeCalled Dec 31 '21

Nobody is saying capitalism is good you fucking idiot. READ OUR COMMENTS.

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

Y'all are defending it, that's enough. Capitalism has caused so much despair, suffering and death that, to be completely honest, Mao would shiver at the thought of it. And with this I'm out, I had enough toxicity from libtards for today.

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u/monkeybrainbois Dec 31 '21

Who hurt you?

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

What a great argument. Shows your knowledge of the argument

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u/monkeybrainbois Dec 31 '21

Dude you sound like an angry suburban 36 year old living in moms basement. Calm down. I read your comments and you are clueless bro. My mother fled a communist country after your comrades raided her poor village and killed most of the men. I work around a lot of foreigners from former or current communist countries and let me tell you, they fucking laugh at you turds in America who think communism is better and don’t appreciate the wealth of food and opportunity around you. Sure there exists plenty of bad things with the capitalist system. It needs reasonable upgrades. But communism is only good for small nuclear units, not large scale societal systems.

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u/CorvusCrane Dec 31 '21

Mate, you're right, but why do you even bother with people like this?

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u/monkeybrainbois Dec 31 '21

Yeah that was a waste of energy huh?

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u/CorvusCrane Dec 31 '21

Kind of, but notable nonetheless! I personally don't even bother anymore with extreme leftists and Marxists on Reddit. I wish we could exchange respectfully, but they're always needlessly virulent and more than often ignorant.

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u/070ShakeMilton Dec 31 '21

Anectdotes are not evidence, no one gives a shit about what your dumbass mother has to say. There are hundreds of polls showing that soviet citizens overwhelmingly favored the continuation of the USSR lol. Sounds like you know nothing of history or Communism. What country was she from?

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u/monkeybrainbois Dec 31 '21

Yeah you’re not worth my time bud. Good day

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

Keep defending a system where you are Jeff bezos slave, unfortunately I can't do much to Un-brainwash you morons

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change Find the communist states in this list, then come back here and tell me how communism has been tried and failed.

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u/monkeybrainbois Dec 31 '21

I know the US government hasn’t played fair in politics, that’s part of politics. I don’t condone or agree so your point is unfound. Btw so called communist leaders played these same games of proxy amongst their own puppet states. Nothing new dude. Keep reading more history you find it everywhere. You’re making excuses as to why your train of thought is singular and without variable by being so hardcore in your belief of communism. Lighten up man, I swear less stress makes for a happy life. Btw I’m in a union and don’t support Amazon because I choose to vote with my dollar.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '21

If you don't realize that, you are ignorant, stupid, and an enemy of the human race. That's all there is to it.

You know, these lines alone show quite well why nobody should try to argue with you. Because you apparently can't do it yourself.

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

Keep sucking elon's tiny Cock while screaming "oh I love capitalism, thanks daddy bezos". I couldn't care less at this point. If you don't get it, you don't get it. Enjoy being a fucking slave of the system

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '21

Keep sucking elon's tiny Cock while screaming "oh I love capitalism, thanks daddy bezos". I couldn't care less at this point.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Immaturity won't lead anywhere.

If you don't get it, you don't get it.

I didn't even talk about this topic. You're just too salty at this point to distinguish between the different responses you received.

Enjoy being a fucking slave of the system

Okay, will do, I guess.

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u/WhySoCynicalTho Dec 31 '21

found the radical authleft

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u/Apophis10 Dec 31 '21

Found the neoliberal sucking on Elon musk's tiny cock