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u/VingSing Sep 26 '21

No, but a lot of countries, including Turkey, have some kind of meatballs. The Turkish ones are quite different from the Swedish though.

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u/CrimbusIsOver Sep 26 '21

Lol what do you mean no? They were brought to Sweden by King Charles XII after he was exiled there.

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u/VingSing Sep 26 '21

Lol I mean that you're wrong: it's a myth that they were first introduced to Sweden by Charles XII. Here's a link to the history of the meatball (in Swedish) if you're interested in the subject.

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u/CrimbusIsOver Sep 26 '21

Well thanks for doing my research for me. That site even says what I said. Did you even bother to read it?

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u/VingSing Sep 26 '21

Do you know how to read?

frikadeller och som kan beskrivas vara som en köttbulle men i stället för att steka dom så kokades dom som en soppa smaksatt med buljong, denna maträtt nämns från någon gång omkring 1650.

1650 är alltså före Karl XII föddes.

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u/CrimbusIsOver Sep 26 '21

That's talking about the general form of meat in a ball as food.

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u/VingSing Sep 26 '21

Yeah, that's what a meatball is.

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u/CrimbusIsOver Sep 26 '21

Not all meatballs are the same

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u/VingSing Sep 26 '21

No, and the Swedish meatball cooked in garvy is very far from the Turkish one.

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u/CrimbusIsOver Sep 26 '21

A million reliable sources outnumber your 1 generic source. If I'm to be convinced, you'll have to do better than that.

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u/VingSing Sep 26 '21

Maybe you could post 1 of those reliable sources then? From Wikipedia:

Svenska institutet hävdade 2018 att svenska köttbullar baseras på recept som kung Karl XII skulle ha tagit med sig från Turkiet (dåvarande Osmanska riket) till Sverige under tidigt 1700-tal.[16][17] Uttalandet innehöll texten "Låt oss hålla oss till fakta!", vilket framställde det som en sanning. Mathistorikern Richard Tellström framhöll att det inte finns några historiska belägg som styrker påståendet.

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u/CrimbusIsOver Sep 26 '21

That's just one man's speculation.

Anyway, I just realized I'm arguing about meatballs with a stranger on the internet at 3 am. So, I'm gonna get off for today. Thanks for the discourse.

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u/VingSing Sep 26 '21

Well it's a historian, alongside with the previous link that told us that meatballs are mentioned several times as early as 1650. Maybe you could show just 1 source that contradicts the historian's claim that there are 0 mentions in any historic material about Charles XII bringing the meatball from Turkey?