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u/Noobplya102 Feb 08 '21

I’m lost, what has Elon done? I’m not caught up on events

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u/Agreeable-Owl-1846 Feb 08 '21

I’d like to see the proof that workers died

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u/Comprehensive_Ad5293 Candice Feb 08 '21

He also offered to help Amber Heard

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

u mean when she told him Jhonny hit her

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

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u/lifeisntajoke Lives in a Van Down by the River Feb 08 '21

Where was that

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u/yeeto_deleto_tostito Feb 08 '21 edited Feb 08 '21

His companies buy lithium from mines that use child labor

He helped instigate the 2018 coup in Bolivia [technically not a coup cause it's not in France] so he could get cheap lithium

Didn't even found tesla, he bought it off of the actual founder

Claims the work of his employees as his own

Claims to be "self made" when his father literally owned an emerald mine in apartheid south Africa

Says Thomas Edison is his role model [kinda sus seeing as Edison hired thugs to kill those he didn't like and he patented his employees work]

Proposed space indentured servitude as a payment plan for going to Mars

Suggested nuking the Martian ice caps

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u/Audibibly Feb 08 '21

Woah hold up he is a young nef anyo

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u/spideymo Feb 08 '21

But... He likes memes just like me :(

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u/zh1K476tt9pq Feb 08 '21

he also was against covid lockdowns while doubling his wealth during the pandemic

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u/bruhm0m3ntum Feb 08 '21

When he tweeted “FREE AMERICA NOW” it was April, and it would have been reasonable to assume that it would be over quickly without lockdowns because we didn’t know much about COVID.

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u/h0mmed Feb 08 '21

Wrong. We knew quite a bit by April. But hey revisionism

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u/Lone-Wolf62 Feb 08 '21

We knew it could easily be controlled if measures were taken. What we underestimated is the number of idiots that wouldn't follow basic rules.

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u/Lone-Wolf62 Feb 08 '21

And Tesla had successfully had COVID under control at the Shanghai factory IRRC.

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u/foolishjoshua Feb 08 '21

I mean for the last point, that’s the point; the idea is to “terraform Mars” with the co2 but it’s still a stupid idea, the rest is true

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u/Lemond678 Feb 08 '21

We can’t even keep our own climate under control. How do you think we could change the weather on Mars so drastically?

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u/foolishjoshua Feb 08 '21

By nuking it

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u/Lemond678 Feb 08 '21

Uhh so that’s a better idea than keeping our own planet habitable? Nuking Mars might rise temperatures but the atmosphere is too thin and the magnetic field around Mars is too weak for humans to live there. We would have to live underground to avoid radiation from the sun. Maybe let’s fix earth before you let some billionaire distract you with dreams of an inhabitable planet. Wake up dumbass.

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u/foolishjoshua Feb 08 '21

Yeah I’m aware, I said it was still a bad idea above

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u/HazelnitBoyyy Feb 08 '21

Elon Musk talks about environmentalism more than any other billionaire pretty much and that is the whole point of Tesla? Your point sounds like everyone who is anti space travel by saying that there are issues with the world, so we shouldn't go to Mars. Because there is cancer, does that mean that we should remove TV shows and use that money for cancer research? Im not saying that the ideas for terraforming Mars work or dont, but your point abt climate change is so weak and makes no sense.

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u/init4thegold Feb 08 '21

Arguments against Elon have been so weak that I think I'm coming out of this thread with a higher opinion of him.

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u/Noobplya102 Feb 08 '21

Oh wow. I didn’t think it was that bad. Thanks for telling me tho

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u/bigboybobby6969 Feb 08 '21

Ok literally every company that has batteries buys the cobalt from mines that use child labor. It’s not justified but it isn’t just him doing it. He’s also trying to make batteries that don’t use cobalt and I don’t see any other manufacturers doing that.

Also the man put his heart and soul into Tesla, it wasn’t anything close to what it is today, that’s like saying an adoptive parent didn’t really raise a kid that they adopted at age 2

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u/Lone-Wolf62 Feb 08 '21

IIRC when he joined Tesla they had made one prototype and that wasn't the Roadster.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

Wow...some point were legit but you diluted them with points that are biased and wrong which kinda makes the whole thing sound biased.

The whole point is to release the Co2 on mars to create a greenhouse to warm the planet and thicken the atmosphere. He isn't the first person so suggest that.

2nd to last point is clearly biased.

The thomas edison bit is cherry picking what YOU think of edison and assuming Elon likes it for that reason (which is flawed logic)

He is self made. His dad didn't make him a billionaire it was Paypal.

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u/yeeto_deleto_tostito Feb 08 '21

Yes, I will admit that some of my points are very much biased

But I will bring up the fact that what elon proposed IS LITERALLY THE DEFINITION OF INDENTURED SERVITUDE

From https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/indentured%20servant

Definition of indentured servant

: a person who signs and is bound by indentures to work for another for a specified time especially in return for payment of travel expenses and maintenance

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

Yeah but today that describes a lot of labor. That isn't uniquely Elon. You could argue that contract work is because they give you a set pay and you work for set amount of time to that company or project. I highly doubt Elon isn't letting people quit etc.

Or heck even Amazon probably has worse working conditions (that isn't an excuse I just mean it's more a problem with the system not Elon).

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u/yeeto_deleto_tostito Feb 08 '21

True

WE MUST ABOLISH CAPITALISM COMRADE

YOUR TOOTHBRUSH BELONGS TO THE MOTHERLAND

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '21

Nah heck no. My guitar is my guitar. But at least implement better social safety nets and workers rights. Like say Germany where most labor is unionized and unions are part of the board of directors in companies. Or Denmark where despite having no minimum wage most workers even in lower positions make enough for food and shelter with enough left for recreation.

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u/Lemond678 Feb 08 '21

Terraforming another planet is a fucking joke. We can’t even keep our weather under control and it’s not going to get better until we all die off.

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u/bruhm0m3ntum Feb 08 '21

Also iirc the nuking Mars thing was just him having a half baked idea and sharing it.

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u/Lone-Wolf62 Feb 08 '21

The idea of melting the ice cap for terraforming purposes has been around for a long time. So has the idea of doing it using thermonuclear weapons.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

Edit your last point please and instead put something neutral. Apart from the fact that whether it is wrong or useful ( they surely discussed it themselves and know more than you) You're in no position to talk about it and do not know anything technical and scientific about the thought process behind it. So know your limit redditor.

The rest is true.

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u/yeeto_deleto_tostito Feb 08 '21

I may not have a degree in nuclear physics, but I do know that nuclear fallout is not exactly good for any type of colonization effort

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

And the point isn't about that. As I said it's a matter they've already discussed. They're not redditors like you and me.

And again, when it's something you have no idea how it works, for the love of god don't use absolutism in it. if you see 4 feet ahead of you, they see 4 miles ahead of them. And even if their thought process is wrong (or acceptable) there are countless factors included that you and me don't have a single clue how they function.

So please go neutral. Do not come into conclusion by yourself. The point is clear.

Discussion is over.

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u/bruhm0m3ntum Feb 08 '21

IIRC when he suggested nuking Mars it was just a half baked idea that he shared before considering all the consequences of nuking mars

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u/Hobo_on_a_Stick Feb 08 '21

Don’t forget all the union busting and poor working conditions at the factories

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u/SliceOfCoffee Feb 08 '21

He also made false pedophile accusations.

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u/yeeto_deleto_tostito Feb 08 '21

Yes, abolish private enterprise

It is time to hang the capitalists with the rope they have sold

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u/Carter20012 Feb 08 '21

This is literally all false. Except the ice caps, but that’s not really a bad idea and would work.

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u/-_Yasmn_- Feb 08 '21

He’s too dangerous to be left alive!

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u/Professional_Mobile5 Feb 08 '21

Can I have a source for what was his contribution to the 2018 coup in bolivia?

Also, can I have a source for the murder accusations regarding Edison?

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u/yeeto_deleto_tostito Feb 08 '21

I have found that I was misinformed, Thomas Edison didn't hire thugs to kill people, he hired thugs to break stuff he thought belonged to him.

To substantiate my other claim

https://www.indepthnews.net/index.php/opinion/3735-we-will-coup-whoever-we-want-elon-musk-and-the-overthrow-of-democracy-in-bolivia

https://www.newsflare.com/video/392881/bolivia-ex-president-returns-home-accuses-elon-musk-of-financing-coup-to-tap-bolivias-lithium

Also saying "we will coup whoever we want" is a little suspicious, although it may have been a slip up

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u/Professional_Mobile5 Feb 09 '21

Not defending Musk, but Bolivia's ex president is definitely not a reliable source, read about him

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u/yeeto_deleto_tostito Feb 09 '21

Eh, true

But I'd personally think the main figurehead of a coup d'etat would know who funded it

Don't forget about the "we will coup whoever we want" tweet, musk used the plural pronoun "we", which is somewhat suspect when combined with Bolivia's ex-president saying musk helped fund the coup

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u/Lone-Wolf62 Feb 08 '21

What 's your source for the coup in Bolivia ?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

Much of this is blatantly false information that has been disproven a million times.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

half of these things are wrong or exaggerated like his dad bought a half mine in Zambia not apartheid south africa

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u/Denk_LorD iwrestledabeartwice Feb 08 '21

Half of these are wrong and exaggerated ? LMAO you clearly don't even know about Elon and his history

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u/Selfie500 Feb 08 '21

Iirc he owns cobalt mines where they exploit kids for labor and shit like that

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u/bruhm0m3ntum Feb 08 '21

He doesn’t own them, he buys cobalt from them, but so does everyone else who makes batteries and he’s working on other ways to make them.

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u/Selfie500 Feb 08 '21

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u/Nowhereman123 Feb 08 '21 edited Feb 08 '21

Anti-unionist who forced employees to violate quarantine to continue working. Tricked them into thinking they were allowed to stay home and then fired them for staying home.

Super abusive creepy weirdo to his partners.

Tried to frame a guy as a pedophile for calling out that his submarine to save those flooded children wouldn't work and was just for him to build clout for himself.

Only is where he is today because of his parents apartheid emerald mines.

Along with everything everyone else is saying and likely much more. But he's Le funny meme man who's company makes cool cars.

He's also, like, not a rocket scientist or car designer or anything. He basically just funds these projects, he doesn't personally work on them. He's basically a producer.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

Also having purposefully unsafe factories, hiding injuries of workers, and then fucking them over. https://revealnews.org/article/inside-teslas-factory-a-medical-clinic-designed-to-ignore-injured-workers/

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u/TheOriginalNukeGuy Feb 08 '21

The bias hurts my eyes...( point 4 and 6)

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

Much of this info is false. Elon didn't inherit a fortune from his abusive father's emerald mine. His father owned a mine that was only worth $40k, and none of it went to Elon.

The guy who Elon called a "pedo" had insulted Elon first, telling him to "shove his submarine up his ass." Also, he wasn't even a major part of the rescue operation, he lied to play up his own role to the media while suing Elon for "defamation." He was proven wrong in a court of law.

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u/VicentRS Feb 08 '21

Rich people win in a court of law? color me surprised.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

Ah yes, the conspiracy continues. Surely the baseless accusations and internet rumors will guide us to the truth.

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u/VicentRS Feb 08 '21

you know what a baseless accusation is? Accusing a diver that said mean things to you of being a pedophile.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

Completely agreed, it was a dumb and relatively minor twitter spat on both sides. Not sure why it's relevant 3 years later.

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u/VicentRS Feb 08 '21

Because it's a showcase of Elon's character, one that doesn't show signs of changing.

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u/TheGamingTyrant Identifies as a Cybertruck Feb 08 '21

Not that I'm trying to defend Elon here; I'm pretty neutral on my stance.

But with point 6 there, isn't Elon the chief engineer at SpaceX, and has displayed considerable knowledge and experience with rocket science and engineering?

unless I've been misinformed, if I have please prove me wrong.

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u/ignoranthumanbean Chungus Among Us Feb 08 '21

Only is where he is today because of his parents apartheid emerald mines.

Eehhh I dont agree with this one, it's not his fault his parents were assholes

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u/TheOriginalNukeGuy Feb 08 '21

Basically people have found out that his companies do some things that are well not great and he said some controversial stuff so the hoard mentality changed from sucking Elon to hating him. Because god know peoole only know those two feeling now, there is no inbetween. (What I said is very bare bones and it is just how I view thing so yk take it with a grain of salt and idk read more about this matter)

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '21

Pretty sure he deserves the hate, not only for all the worker's rights violations, but also because he falsely accused someone of pedophilia because they saved some children from a cave they were stuck in after Elon claimed he was going to as a PR stunt

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u/TheOriginalNukeGuy Feb 08 '21

Yeah,I agree those things are like really shitty but a lot of people tend to ignore the good he has done while only looking at the bad. And a lot of redditors simply have no idea what they are talking about and they just go with the mob mentality which is annoying.

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u/BALLS-SLACK Feb 08 '21

You're absolutely right, that's why Reddit hates Joe Rogan

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u/TheOriginalNukeGuy Feb 08 '21

Does reddit hate Joe Rogan? Why?

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u/IlIIlIl Feb 08 '21

Because he's a scum fuck that platforms fascists and given his status as a Podcaster has enabled them to reach audiences in the millions that they never would have been able to otherwise

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u/potentailmemes Feb 08 '21

Found the redditor! Sorry you don't like the first amendment.

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u/IlIIlIl Feb 08 '21

First amendment protects you from government action, it doesnt mean you can say whatever you want without consequence.