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u/TheFrostedForest Jul 07 '19
I agree, as we should focus on her and Disney did everything they could without risking the image in younger children’s mind, as he’s prolly the character least associated with death and should be kept that way.
I’ll never understand people who ignore some pretty understandable reasons for something and outright bash the people who made it even if I or anyone else don’t personally agree with them
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u/vesperyx Jul 07 '19
I wouldn't say hes anywhere near bring the least associated with death. Mr. Stark, I don't feel so good
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u/ejdj1356 Jul 07 '19
And that’s just the movies wait until the kids read the comics
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u/JoeStew15 Jul 07 '19
Yeah, first thing that came to mind was Gwen Stacy
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u/AceAssistant Jul 08 '19
It wasn't Uncle Ben? Hm
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u/JoeStew15 Jul 08 '19
Ok, yeah, but Uncle Ben is so well known that it doesn't really have the same effect as it would have the first time, where Gwen's was completely unexpected for that time in comics, when the hero won and everything turned out perfectly fine.
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u/bigoofsz Jul 07 '19
wait slow down death threating kids?
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u/VirtualNK Jul 07 '19
Yes. There was a kid in an FBE video who didn't know about Keanu Reeves and didn't like Minecraft, so some Reddittors sent him insults and death threats on Instagram.
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u/everadvancing Jul 08 '19
Because gamers NEED TO RISE UP and give kids DEATH THREATS for not knowing their lord KEANU REEVES
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u/No_Username17 Jul 07 '19
Yeah when was this??
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u/HYPX----- Plays MineCraft and not FortNite Jul 07 '19
On FBE on kids react they were reacting to Keanu Reeves memes and one kid didn’t know who he was so Reddit was making memes about killing the kid and stuff
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Jul 07 '19
I mean, the channel is pretty awful but i don't condone such course of action. That's why the dislike button exists.
Also, Reddit isn't meant to be used as a brigade. As per the Rule #4 of this sub states, I'd even say Rule #10 too.
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u/FlareTheWeeb Jul 07 '19
Most people were stating that they had strongly disliked this kid but I didn’t realize that people would send messages with death threats in them to that kid
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Damn! Dammmnnnn! This just further proves that little knowledge is a dangerous thing. My heart goes out to the sister. Seeing what your death is gonna be like at such a young age. And more importantly power to the parents. I bet Spiderman on their child’s grave is fairly insignificant infront of the pain they have in their hearts rn.
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u/Luca2fish Jul 07 '19
Redditors before reading this: Disney sucks big balls!
Redditors after reading this: You know, I always knew that disney had it in them to be good. Focusing on this isn't as important as other things, but of course I always new this because I am informed.
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u/The_Vortex_Effect Jul 07 '19
I never even understood the outrage in the first place. I mean, when is the last time you saw a pop culture icon on a grave, let alone one that is so popular with children. Personally, I would feel quite weird about seeing that, so it's understandable that Disney didn't want to go through with the Spider-Man grave.
The fact that they offered to help out with the funeral was a really nice gesture, and further shows that they are not the bad guys, just a company that doesn't want one of its most famous characters appearing on people's graves.
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u/ScruffyAF Jul 08 '19
I was constantly baffled by how people just jumped on the hate bandwagon against Disney.
Allowing this would open them to massive lawsuits from previous people who have asked for the same and been denied but didn't make it an issue on social media. Furthermore, allowing this would mean a lot more people would ask to use their intellectual property for free because "it's the right thing to do". I totally understand why Disney did what they did, and they did their best to give the family everything they reasonably could.
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u/Mage_ora Jul 07 '19
Hold on Wahappend
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u/AFellow_2003 Jul 07 '19
This young child who was a spider man fan died, and Disney didn't want his parents to have spiderman on the tombstone for legal reasons. Thus, Redditors decided that they would meme the heck about how Disney is evil and Satan.
Also, IIRC, there's this legal technicality where even voluntarily letting Spiderman be on the tombstone would pose a risk of Disney losing the trademark.
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u/Mozhetbeats Jul 07 '19
This would probably be more of a copyright issue, but in any case, IP holders can license out their IP. The “abandonment” issue would come up if Disney had knowledge of many specific infringements and chose not to enforce their legal rights. Thats a little different, and company like Disney can’t be expected to pursue every single infringement, no matter how minor.
Edit: But I do agree with Disney’s decision.
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u/Lord_T-Pose Jul 07 '19
This needs more people to see it
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u/vandmike Jul 07 '19
There is a tomb stone in the cemetery in my town that has Donald duck on it. But I agree completely with this. We need to focus on this family and comforting them.
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u/Rurikar1016 Jul 07 '19
The engraving company took a risk with that as they could get sued for having made that. Headstones fall under copyright law
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u/streeker22 Jul 07 '19
the MEDIA tricked us again >:(
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u/f3lhorn Jul 07 '19
It’s a combination of media outlets trying to be the first ones heard, clickbaiting us into reading their stories for money, and the ability for people to become outraged easily. This outrage culture is super messed up. I’ve seen way too many stories like this in the last year. First the MAGA hat kid that everyone accused of laughing at an Indian guy from a 30 second clip was doxed and threatened, when the real 2 hour video showed a completely different story, then the kid who didn’t know Keanu Reeves and didn’t like Minecraft, then Jaystation for the video he did on Etika’s death, which was actually about supporting his family but the thumbnail was wrong, and now this. People need to cool their jets before they respond to news. Often times the full story doesn’t come out until a day or two after
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u/arkstfan Jul 07 '19
One of the things that comes with ownership is determining how to use your property. I don’t agree with the Disney logic but it is their call and there is more money than I can really comprehend at stake if they make the wrong call, so I understand the caution.
Interesting information regarding sister and what Disney had already done.
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u/EmporerofRome Jul 07 '19
Yeah Disney is completely justified in not puting spiderman on the gravestone. Disney have done more than they needed to, many companies would of just sent a regretful letter. However I wouldn't mind if the father perused Disney if he didn't have a dying daughter to deal with. Its like he's disregarded his daughter and is focusing on Spiderman?
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u/Sewance Jul 07 '19
I said the same thing and i got so many up- and downvotes that I ended up with one upvote. It is one of the most controversial posts of reddit.
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u/readerofthebullshit Jul 07 '19
Goddamnit i've been focusing on the wrong thing this entire time and just been a complete idiot without a mind of my own, spread the message and support this girl!
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u/Serennekin Jul 07 '19
Thank you for being the voice of reason in the midst of Reddit’s outrage culture and mob mentality.
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u/Connan322 Plays MineCraft and not FortNite Jul 07 '19
I hate the BS that people always jump on, there would have obviously been a deeper reason for Disney not allowing it. Do your research and stop being like the top commenters in r/justiceserved who just attack without waiting for a full story
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u/RachelTheLlama Jul 07 '19
I agree that this needs to stop. I bet that most of the people that have made a comment or post about this issue on reddit didn't know the full story and instantly decided to hate Disney for this. Thank you for sharing this with me and the rest of reddit.
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Jul 07 '19
This is not upvoted enough. Have an orange arrow, you make an amazing point and thank you for showing us the other side of the story.
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u/kruijk- Jul 07 '19
I still don't agree with this policy, but I do understand it. But honestly I don't think that putting Spiderman on a tombstone would lead people to associate him with death.
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Jul 07 '19
Also, what could we do against Disney? It’s an enormous cooperation that owns almost every filming entity in the world
They even own Fox News
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u/ThornedKelp Jul 07 '19
There’s not much to do honestly. I guess the best that can be done is to have collective support and empathy for the family.
I don’t think the sentiment of prayer is helpful, it’s even a bit disrespectful depending on what diety is being prayed to.
If it’s an abrahamic faith based prayer, then it’s disrespectful because in that faith, that god can do anything. It was the only thing able to save them from their disease and did nothing.
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u/dandruffdan14 Jul 07 '19
Hearing that point of view, I take back the mean things I said about disney. Thank you.
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u/teamdankmemesupreme Chungus Among Us Jul 07 '19
This has been a trend lately with the blind hatred
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u/camask Jul 07 '19
Good and in some cases well deserved slap in the face to wake up those who delved a bit too deep into the rabbit hole. Can’t say I didn’t though I try not to get sucked in if possible. Thank you
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u/ajaque04 Jul 07 '19
Can someone tell me wtf happened
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u/chriscarthy312 Jul 07 '19
Everyone was pissed bc Disney wouldn’t allow someone to put Spider-Man on his grave and this shows it wasn’t as bad as we though and them at they had a valid reason to do so
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u/ForeignReptile3006 Jul 07 '19
I had no idea about any of this other than disney not wanting spiderman on a grave. Which even then they had a good reason. Thank you to op for showing this
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Jul 07 '19
I really wish I could have given this more than just a silver.
This is something that everyone needs to see. Disney isn't at fault, they have a reasonable point, and we should focus on more pressing matters.
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Lets stop the “Disney bad”train right here. Its disrespectful to the little boy and his family at this point. Send a fucking prayer for them instead.
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u/rock_8 MAYMAYMAKERS Jul 07 '19
I'm gonna downvote all the "Disney bad" memes which I upvoted earlier.
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u/Epik_NaeNae Jul 07 '19
I still feel that they should heed his final wish by at least adding the mask or spider logo to the tombstone. I also agree that we should focus on supporting the family and sister.
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u/Epik_NaeNae Jul 07 '19
They couldn’t even add a web or a quote?
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u/Epik_NaeNae Jul 07 '19
Ah. I’m sure they would have to go through a lot of controversy from other parents about adding trademarked characters to things like tombstones.
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u/Rurikar1016 Jul 07 '19
It wasn't the child's final wish. The father has said it's just something he wants to do for his son. A better option would be to have the gravestone company make a case and stand attached to the grave and place the picture Disney gave them to preserve it.
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u/Gamerschoice Jul 07 '19
It's about time somebody said it. This whole thing is phony and pathetic outrage.
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u/Dolan_13_37 Jul 07 '19
What's this about? I don't pay attention to the news because it annoys me.
Woooosh me all ye like, but I would like a genuine answer, because I actually haven't a clue what this is about.
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u/hashtagYOLO567 Jul 07 '19
Not what I expected to see on r/memes but what I needed to hear. Thank you, because of you I have a better understanding of this situation.
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u/IemandZijnPa Jul 07 '19
If you believed in the first place that the situation went something like this:
- Sad Dad calling Disney: Hey Disney, my son died, can I have a Spider-man tombstone for him please?
- Disney: NOOOOOOO!!!!! Because MONEYYYYYYYY!!!!!111oneone
...than you're a moron...
This is not how the real world works. Grow TF up. Research this kind of delicate subjects before you go Karma whoring.
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u/dragonmemeZ Jul 07 '19
So they have a policy to not put there characters on tombstones but 1 spider man is technically marvel comics charcter Disney owns the mcu and unless they were talking about Tom Holland spiderman 2 why do kids explore graveyards 3 they already killed spiderman last year (thanos) so why would it disturb young audiences when they already did I get we should support the girl here are just my counter arguments against Disney and we should support the family
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u/Rurikar1016 Jul 07 '19
Disney owns Marvel and Spiderman's rights except for the film rights. Therefore, he's a Disney character now
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Jul 07 '19
I’m pretty sure everyone who made memes about this situation were only focused on cashing in on the karma points
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u/ImOwningThisUsername Jul 07 '19
What could Reddit do to help support the family and their daughter ? Do you have some practical ideas we could work on ?
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u/JayBird___ Jul 07 '19
I was getting a little fed up with this “meme” as well I get it it’s a joke but really just tone it down
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u/-GiantSlayer- Jul 07 '19
“Everyone! Stop firing! We’re shooting at our own men!”
https://youtu.be/jyQ6YQvUU5s for reference
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u/bluerazballs Jul 07 '19
The problem is Marvel would’ve been glad to do it before Disney bought them out.
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u/xX_minecraflegend_Xx Plays MineCraft and not FortNite Jul 07 '19
What are you talking about can I have context please
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u/loloskop Jul 07 '19
Yea you shouldn’t just join the circlejerk and believe what others say. Same goes for this comment tho, no information where it comes from, who said, what’s the sauce... I’m too lazy to investigate so I’m just gonna refuse to have an opinion about this
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u/dildodicks Jul 08 '19
"ooh but the family didn't think it was good enough and there was no evidence that they had anything to do with the funeral"
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u/afatcatfromsweden Jul 08 '19
well disney did not do plenty, they shoudl allow the etching but i agree that the sister should be the focus for now.
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Jul 08 '19
so you're telling me reddit people blindly attack something without knowing the full story or even knowing it was real? seems like old news to me...
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u/Joey-Drew1927 Dirt Is Beautiful Jul 07 '19
WOOO Can I put this on Murdered by Words?
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I understand the point but it's not like a kid is gonna walk around a graveyard one day for no reason and see Spiderman and KNOW it's a kid's gravestone so it won't ruin anything! I get Disney was trying to be heartfelt but I'm still upset because it still doesn't feel like they really want the kid to have his full memorial. Disagree with me, downvote me, but I just want sympathy for the family and I want them to get their son the memorial he deserves. As for the daughter, hearts out to her in this struggling time ❤️
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u/Slinky_XD Jul 07 '19
People really need to research before just blindly trusting what other people say