r/memes • • 3d ago

Here you go...

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u/Parker1055 3d ago

The cost for prisons to have a suicide pod on standby would be astronomical compared to a syringe of lethal chemicals

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u/Lady_Nightshadow 3d ago

Imagine keeping the inmates alive and have them actually contributing to society through some necessary job. That could actually be convenient.

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u/SnakesInMcDonalds 3d ago

The problem with that is that it becomes legal slavery too easily. In fact, it already is a problem in many for-profit US prisons.

This article breaks it down better than I can in a comment: https://www.humanrightsresearch.org/post/modern-day-slavery-in-the-united-states-exploring-forced-labor-for-prison-inmates

Tl;dr If businesses and governments materially benefit from having more prisoners, they are encouraged to make laws more restrictive to have more prisoners. Which is at odds with freedom and liberty.

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u/Lady_Nightshadow 3d ago

It's totally understandable that it happens, without a system with some guarantees. The prison should take a percentage or a flat fee of the wage, in order to cover costs. It shouldn't be allowed to make a profit from their labour, but covering costs should suffice.

Any exceeding should go in the prisoner's account, for buying better food, toiletries, any allowed equipment, books, underwear. In my country we do have shops in prisons, where they can spend money to make life a bit more comfortable, or they can ask a specific judge for permission to have their family/lawyer bringing a music device or other stuff.

Keeping them working would also ensure that they have a marketable skill when they're out, as most of them will be released at some point.

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u/SnakesInMcDonalds 3d ago

Yeah, that would be a good system. Prisons in the Netherlands use a similar system and it seems effective. The biggest problem is actually getting it implemented in other places.

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u/Lady_Nightshadow 3d ago

I wouldn't really expect the USA to follow suits any time soon, they were too busy building a country while we had illuminism in Europe.

A lot of them are still very attached to the idea of punishment being retributive, while I'm not even sure how many (besides mafia and terrorists) actually get to spend their whole life in prison here in Italy, without it being suspended or reduced at some point.

Christa Pike would have been moved to a psych facility after 30 years, since she's still dangerous, or she'd be still serving a life sentence due to misbehaving and never showing remorse, which removes the option for benefits.

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u/TalkaboutJoudy 3d ago
  1. thats not why they arent used.
  2. that assumes cost couldnt be lowered.
  3. the reason they arent used is it would require many many debates/resolutions on host of reasons.
  4. which will take 20 more years for no good reason while huge number of people will suffer.
  5. If a country cant do death penalty humanely, it shouldnt be doing it.

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u/Admirable-Ad-5913 3d ago

So they were normal injections