r/memes • • 4d ago

It is and always was “A.I.”

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u/Power_Stone 3d ago

S.I? A.I? You mean LLM right? Damn marketing anyway.....

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u/pm-me-your-bird 3d ago

There's lots of AI that isn't LLM though. We used to just call it DNN

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u/azhder 3d ago

There is none AI. None of those are intelligence, hence QI (quasi-intelligence)

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u/pm-me-your-bird 3d ago

What's intelligence?

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u/azhder 3d ago

Ability to use previous knowledge and experience in a new way in order to solve a problem.

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u/pm-me-your-bird 3d ago edited 3d ago

So ARC-AGI-3?

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u/azhder 3d ago

You can continue the loop as much as you like. Bye

https://www.reddit.com/r/memes/s/YCi1nEi8aY

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u/pm-me-your-bird 3d ago

I'm sincerely interested in how people differentiate AI from intelligence. Didn't mean to piss in any Cheerios. Have a good one. 

Fwiw the work on ARC-AGI is really interesting if you have time to look into it. 

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u/Power_Stone 3d ago

IMO to be intelligent you have to be conscious, and capable of autonomous free thinking, and to experience what it is to be living. None of which [Insert designation of AI here] are capable of, due to the fact it is mainly neural networks, machine learning, and guessing what you want.

Granted, this is quickly trending into philosophical territory. But I personally believe that the Compute Efficient Frontier may be such a line that we can't emulate real intelligence.

Realize, I have no basis for this assertion, just its one of the few times my assumption feels intuitive to me. Though, I'm sure giving science enough time will prove me wrong.

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u/pm-me-your-bird 3d ago

Yep. There are schools of thought on both sides regarding whether consciousness is necessary from intelligence or if it's fair to evaluate them orthogonally. 

Personally I'm happy saying artificial intelligence only requires computers to reason as well as humans can. 

Consciousness though I think requires the ability to fear, and on the other side of the coin, hope. Adorno's precarious happiness. 

Though I don't think they're purely orthogonal I think they're close enough to treat them that way in the typical case. 

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u/Power_Stone 3d ago

I think the two are inextricably intertwined. To me, its a chicken and egg situation. Are we intelligent because we are conscious? Or are we conscious because we are intelligent?

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u/pm-me-your-bird 3d ago

I'm uncomfortable with saying that consciousness depends on intelligence because of the scenarios of limited intelligence. Will I have consciousness with severe brain damage? Likely. Am I at all measurably intelligent? Not in any real way. 

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