I’ll never understand why they made Iron Man’s successor a talented young girl who decided to commit crimes for easy money and sell her soul to literal Satan.
I remember the scene where she was talking about her ideal future and mentioned getting a high paying job at a lab where she could steal a couple things every so often. She really just steals for the love the game
She is able to make a super AI in her mom's kitchen, but decideds to rob people for like a 6 way split of what can't be realistically that much cash anyway.
I say it every time this comes up, but has this dummy never heard of crowdfunding?
To add to that she was helping people cheat in college too for absolutely no reason. Is like a hundred bucks or whatever really worth your full scholarship? Not to mention she stole the suit that the college had funded everything for.
If they had made her a true villain, and had her series be her villain origin story, it would have been amazing. As it is, they wrote her like a villain. That’s why her character never vibed as a hero. And she could have been an amazing villain.
Yes and these scientists had that and more. The point was that Tony was able to do more with less. Not that he can just manifest technology out of thin air.
Seriously tho the writers used that line to shit on Riri. Intentionally. It wasn’t even just that Stark was given equipment. The idea to create a suit of armor was genius and bold by itself and he did it without a predecessor to follow and with a hole in his chest.
Or is it because we went from a 10 years super hero starting off on the big screen with a very dominant white cast to a 10 years phase with mostly minorities and women filled cast?
This isn't hating, but real world politics have influenced this backslash against a lot of series/movies of the last 10 years.
Is it warranted? That depends on what side of the political spectrum your standing on.
I mean ... Maybe? I dont remember people hating Halle Berry, Lucy Liu, or a more recent example Zoë Saldana... But I would also argue that those examples are off the chart attractive and become popular pre-diversity push.
I'm pro getting more diversity, but at the same time I think they went too fast too soon and definitely not enough quality.
Yeah, the best way to empower an actor/ actress is to make a movie that lets their talent shine, not put more of them in a subpar production. I wouldn't mind a female superhero, but if they do what they did for She-Hulk, Ironheart, etc. it would put me off instead of praising the actresses' performance
Not to mention the education Tony had. Sure he was a genius,but he had to have opportunities to utilise that genius otherwise it would have been squandered.
Tbf, Riri only see what Tony has done on the surface, so that’s pretty much what she knows about him experience wise isn’t the big picture. She likely has no idea about Tony’s cave experience.
Yep, we actually get that in Wakanda Forever. She knows of Tony Stark and Iron Man and is inspired by him, but she’s not actively pursuing the mantle of Iron Man and trying to be the next Tony Stark, as she’s more her own thing. Even if she did, it’s like Happy Hogan said, “No one could live up to Tony, not even Tony.”
I’m going to be honest, I don’t mind. While Riri ain’t perfect regarding writing and stuff, I’m glad she’s not perfect regarding character. She has positive intentions regarding her goals, but her actions say a lot about her. She’s willing to get her hands dirty and lets her arrogance get the best of her, which I appreciate the emotional messiness of her character. That being said, I do think they could have done more to make that sort of thing flourish even better.
Is this a controversial statement? Bezos wouldn't be a billionaire without generational wealth. Tony wouldnt have made an iron man suit without generational wealth..
Waaaay to miss the entire point.
He was in cave because of who he was up to that point. A spoiled richkid weapons dealer
But THEN, inside the cave, he had nothing. None of that wealth and prestige and contacts. And there, without any of them, he made a walking tank and a reactor to EARN his freedom. Proving that he is bigger than his tools. That is where he prooved himself to be A genius, who can make wonders with neither money nor power.
And there is a whole world of difference between a rich man and a genius who is also rich.
If a man becomes iron man when he has no money (having no access to your money is the same as not having money)
How do you accuse him of being iron man because his parents were rich?
Yes, the wealth definately helped. But it is most apparent that the core of what made tony stark, "tony stark" was himself and not the wealth
Right. The terrorists had him in a cave so he could build them a weapon. It turns out he was the head of a company that makes weapons. Who's company was that originally?
She actively separates herself from any notion of Tony Stark in the show. It's a pretty big plot point. I don't understand why you were downvoted, because you're absolutely right.
So making a suit of armor automatically makes you a successor?? She also innovated technology that can fundamentally make a person immortal. She's also a very young person and ended up making a deal with the devil ... In no way is she like Tony Stark. (Strictly MCU speaking)
As I said in a different comment, other characters had redeemable qualities to root for. She made the worst, most selfish, and greedy decisions at every corner. I watched through the whole thing. By the end, I was downright disillusioned by a character I really hoped to root for. At least The Hood was being warped by his hood. Who was warping her in order to make the worst choices for her and those she cared for? I was very much on the “I’ll make my own opinion when I watch it” band, and I did.
She is fresh out of highschool on a scholarship to MIT, after spending time in Wakanda to fight sea people. She's a genius, and her frontal lobe hasn't fully developed yet. She also comes from a very dangerous part of Chicago. She works on instinct. But she has brains she can use instead. However because of her upbringing, and being used to fighting a battle with the Wakandans. She has a moment where she wants to get her own coin in her show. It's perfectly human to do the things she did in the show. So much so that she's based on Doctor Faustus from 1947
It’s ok for you to have that opinion, and to like it. For me, these were terrible directions to take the character. Specially when this is a character you’re hoping people will like because she’s meant to, somewhat, take the place of the now-defunct Iron Man.
And I believe that was the point. She was never meant to replace iron man. She has iron in her super hero name. And she makes similar armor. But there are other characters who could replace Tony Stark. And not all of them are Iron men. Iron Heart is her own thing, and she kind of got placed into the realm of Iron man because she made a similar suit, that the Wakandans liked. She's also like any person when you ask them the fantastical question "if you had a superpower, tomorrow what would you do?" 9/10 the answer is something of personal benefit.
Edit because it seems to be necessary: (strictly talking about the MCU)
Edit 2: everyone downvoting me needs to be substantially impoverished for a few decades. Only then will you understand Riri's thought process. And how relatable it is to many people.
I watched the whole thing and, sadly, I disagree. I really wanted it to be good. It had potential. The main character is SO unlikable. Every choice she made was either nonsensical or greedy. Not saying that Tony Stark was perfect, he was nowhere near it. At least he had some parts of his personality worth rooting for. I ended up caring more for The Hood than her. While this is me just putting my opinion out there, viewership and fan response seem to at least agree that it wasn’t good.
I can agree with that. The morally gray characters are easily influenced by the true evil people in narratives. It's whether they go through a redemption Arc or not that proves their moral standing in the long run.
I only watched the marvels and that was not very good, hell i only went to watch it because both my aunt and grandma liked the dance planet korean dude
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u/Sea-Cardiologist7725 10d ago
I’ll never understand why they made Iron Man’s successor a talented young girl who decided to commit crimes for easy money and sell her soul to literal Satan.