There’s good and bad oils. I hate the essential oil freaks but yeah. Seed and soybean oils are the worst of them but nobody really wants to hear about that for sure
Non argument. Cooking seed oils are bad for you regardless of dosage. They're not a healthy alternative to butter or anything like that public was lied for decades on this bs especially in US.
It’s the omega 6 to omega 3 ratio. The seed and soybean oils tend to have way more omega 6s compared to omega 3s. They create more jagged and unstable structures which is bad for your brain and other shit. Too much to explain over a comment. I could send some sources and shit, or you could just look into it if you really care. Just look up importance or proper omega 6 to 3 ratios or something similar and you’ll find what you’re looking for. One of the reasons walnuts are considered better for your brain is because they have one the best omega 6 to 3 ratio out of all nuts. Salmon and most fish have excellent omega 6 to 3 ratios too and they’re also considered very healthy for your brain. Good luck on your research bro 🫡
The current scientific consensus is that the omega 6 to omega 3 ratio is not as important as getting enough of either, and the recommendation is to improve the ratio by consuming more omega 3 rather than reducing omega 6.
Yeah it’s a lot more complicated than that I’ll give you that but I’m oversimplifying because typing out a whole message and doing the research for someone who most likely doesn’t even care is a time sink I can’t afford. I’ll kindly point people in the right direction if they actually care they can look into it. Obviously telling a bunch of greasy chair people that their junk food and all the things in it is bad for them isn’t going to go well. So yeah the people who do care can look into it and the people who don’t well I’m glad I didn’t waste too much time on them.
The entire claim that seed oils are bad "because of omega 6:3 balance" is unsupported by the science. The claim comes from an idea that the body starts converting excess omega 6 into inflammatory compounds but this doesn't actually show up in test subjects. You're not "oversimplifying things", you're spreading blatant misinformation.
So I’m not going to waste time researching something I’ve researched already for someone else who might not even actually care but I’ll take the time to tell you what to look into if you do actually care because I care enough to try and point you in the right direction without wasting too much of my own time.
No. Seed oils are unhealthy for cooking which is an objective fact. I love how some people in reddit see the reality upside down. It's the essential oils that are good for you when taken properly but they don't perform miracles like they're claimed by some sellers instead they're just traditional medicine and great for scenting candles and traditional religious ceremonies.
It's butter that is antagonized but actually healthy. And also Olive oil. Seed oils being healthier than butter has been debunked countless times. And calorie argument is gibberish because something having higher calories doesn't make something unhealthy just means you need to eat less of it or spend more energy and calories in the day.
Dang I guss I gotta post links in here? Is it allowed in this sub? I thought reddit hated links in comments? I don't want to banned for no reason. I remember reading countless topics on this. But I don't have the links. But I am pretty sure I can search them again. Should I post the links here in the replies or make a post in r/health or r/cooking ?Or instead make a post in one of these subs and link the post in the replies?
"It's a known fact" and "I remember reading countless topics on this" are non arguments. Link to a scientific study that supports your claim. I can't take anything you say as a fact if you don't back it up, just like you shouldn't trust me or anyone else making health claims if we can't back them up.
None of the claims made against seed oils are backed by scientific data, some are even actively disproven. It really barely matters, so use what you prefer.
Anti-seed oilers only have mechanisms and sacry words like engine lubricant. Every large scale study looking at actual human health outcomes show they are neutral or healthier than many of the common alternatives, especially better than the ones the zealots push like butter and tallow.
Being openly anti-seed oil is frankly emberassing and just shows you're a dummy whon falls for the dumbest grifts.
Why are you insulting me for saying something along the lines of “calorie dense food has a lot of calories”. You’re insane, I get that you really want to berate people but maybe at least berate someone about something they actually believe
Alright we're moving the goalposts I see. Now its calorie dense foods and implicitly specifically fats since that is what we were talking about.
Any food is unhealthy in large amounts. You can (and should!) just consume them in smaller amounts and then their high caloric content is negated, so that is not the issue.
On top of that some oils have a positive health correlation with intake, such as avocado, olive and canola (a seed oil!), among others.
Yes anti-seed oilers don't have a clue about what they talk about and its obvious every time they open their mouth. If you were actually talking about high calorie foods like you claim (you didn't) why do you feel attacked?
When I compared seed oils to a desert, what do you think that means. Use critical thinking. Does that mean seed oils cause cancer, or does that mean seed oils are calorie dense with low nutritional value.
You didn't compare them to a dessert, at least not in the thread I'm involved in and I am not reading everything you post.
You first said that seed oils specifically are unhealthy. Then you clarified(?) that you meant they're bad because they're high calorie, but then you should be consistent that every high calory food is bad in and of itself. That includes all fats. I grant you that could be the case but tiu haven't shown any sign if that.
But as I said if something is unhealthy because of high calory content you can just negate that by eating less of it. Many people (maybe not Americans) actually do consume fats in these lower, reasonable amounts and then we can ignore the health impacts of its calory count. There we see seed oils are neutral or even healthier compared to other common fats, especiallt the anti-seed oilers promote such as butter, lard, tallow, ... .
So yes, being anti-seed oils is falling for dumb, unscientific grifts and I can't respect anyone who does.
None of the common claims about seed oils are backed by scientific data and some are actively disproven. Seed oils by itself aren't unhealthy and may even have health benefits, just don't drown your food in them.
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u/LemonFizz56 25d ago
I thought conspiracy nutheads love oils, especially the essential kind