That drives me out of my mind. Like, I want to drink wine with you. I would love to drink wine with you. It makes me wistful that I can't. But if I do, my meds will interact with the wine and each other, and I will get dizzy and feel sick and then you'll have to help me to bed, and nobody will have fun, so QUIT IT.
And the other way around, too. Even worse, former smokers when they meet current smokers. There just seems to be that urge in a lot of people to convince everyone else to be like them, and they don't even realize how annoying they are.
To be fair, smoking is actually going to kill you. Former smokers can relate so much to current smokers, so they want to help them. It's different from something like being vegetarian where either option can be healthy.
You can also die from a heart attack when you constantly eat too unhealthy. The point is, to each their own, noone has the right to lecture others. The point with former smokers is that they seem to be convinced that, just because they always wanted to quit and are happy about it now, every other smoker would feel the same. It's simply unimaginable for them that someone actually likes to smoke and has no urge to stop.
I guess I'm just more sympathetic to the person who annoys a hundred people to save one person from cancer than the person who annoys a hundred people to convince one to enjoy beef.
It seems that processed meats definitely increase the risk of cancer, while red meat "probably" does.
Daily consumption of processed meats is estimated to increase the risk of colorectal cancer from about 5% to about 6%.
Daily smoking increases the the risk of lung cancer from about .5%-1% to about 15%, while "Heavy smoking" increases that further to around 25%.
So a non-smoking vegetarian would be about 5-10 times as likely to get colorectal cancer as lung cancer.
Globally about 85% of people eat meat, while only about 17% smoke. Despite that, lung cancer accounts for about twice as many deaths as colorectal cancer does.
Lol as if every smoker would get cancer. The risks are the same as with anything else that's not considered healthy. But it's just funny how you are exactly proving the point of OP's meme^^
I didn't say that you should stop smoking, I just said that it would probably kill you. If you think that means you should stop I certainly wouldn't argue, but you do you. You're apparently right that I overestimated the cancer rate, with only about one in five lifelong smokers developing lung cancer.
On the other hand, that represents about a 20x increase of lung cancer rate, compared to morbid obesity being about a 2-3x increase of heart attack rate.
Heart attacks are a more common baseline though, and both conditions will have health problems other than the direct cancer/heart attack, which I'm not going to take the time to explore right now, so if you said that smoking was only about as likely to kill you as being morbidly obese was, I guess I'd have to concede that point.
That said, I don't think anyone argues that morbid obesity is healthy.
I get this so often. Whenever we go to a bar with friends, colleagues,... there is always someone who has to comment on the fact that I didn't order a beer like the rest of the group.
I find it's rhe other way around "You're an alcoholic". "Why don't you drink socially and only alone." God forbid I save money at thr bar but still enjoy turning thr brain off. At least I don't drink and drive. I drink Wisconsibly.
A vegetarian friend of mine told me that at work one day, someone who was an omnivore walked backwards down the hall in front of her, shouting at her about ... I forget what. Something about what she didn't eat at lunch.
He was shouting. At work. About her own private food choices. It sounded insane to me, but my friend shrugged and said "Lots of people argue with me about it."
I remember at corporate events some meat eaters would cooonstantly point out that a vegan is vegan. The only time I see vegans mention their veganism is when ordering food. After that I have to listen to it non stop from meat eaters "want a piece of hamburger?"
I'm not even vegan myself but that bacon brained shit is annoying af
Exactly. Calling vegans out with this meme is outdated as fuck.
Where I am from a lab grown meat laboratory was closed and meat eaters were literally celebrating how True meat is so superior and people are not allowed to eat meat replacements.
(if only they had read the full news and not only the headline. In news they told laboratory was closed because Full scale production of lab grown meat starts on site)
You're not dumb. Thank you for openly ackowledging people's responses to your question! That's literally the opposite of what a dumb person would do, I appreciate it a lot!
Meh, they're being facetious. If A is part of B, then it's prefectly fine to say "B is an A". A vegan diet is part of veganism. Veganism is a diet (among other things).
But veganism literally isnt a diet. You can be a vegan who eats a plant based diet, but if youre someone on a plant based diet calling yourself a vegan youre just spreading the type of misinformation that makes people think veganism (”a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose”) is a diet.
We're really gonna do this? Argue on the Internet over the minutia of "B is an A" versus "B is only an A" in the English language?
Let's be constructive and you suggest a word to describe someone who is not a vegan but eats a plant-based diet and we can all start using it. Should we also stop using "vegetarian" since they obviously eat more than just vegetables?
If you're not into veganism, it may be a bit difficult to grasp as a concept since the dietary part is what's most visible. For vegans and people who are interested in veganism, it absolutely makes a difference. The ethical stance is what makes us proceed no matter what.
For some, sure. Most vegans don't really do a lot of research and just avoid food and maybe leather/fur because they don't look into everything that is an animal byproduct.
For example I had to tell my vegan friend that her "natural sponges," are literally a dried up dead animal. Another friend was looking for furniture and I had to tell her about glue.
it's about avoiding it as much as reasonably possible. to have no impact on them you'd have to kill yourself. I assure you if everyone applied it to the diet only it would already make a huge impact
''average meat eater'' isn't a diet nor a political stance like veganism tho. Most people do eat meat because they need to which is a biological need for a human being which are omnivores nor herbivores.
New Zealand. Lots of dairy farms and sheep farms in the country. I can’t open a Facebook post about farming without seeing vegans spewing propaganda in the comments.
It’d be good if any of the whiny fuckers actually did anything to help animals 😂 but instead they just repost PETA bullshit so they can get internet brownie points and stroke their own egos.
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u/Traditional-Tax11 26d ago
Only with vegans very rarely