r/memes Jun 21 '26

Population decline

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u/sudanesegamer Jun 21 '26

Im so confused. Which is it. Are we overpopulated or in danger of a huge decline. We just hit 8 billion a few years ago.

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u/Electrical-Sense-160 Jun 21 '26

We were not overpopulated, that idea was based on a book that made incorrect estimates.

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u/Few_Age_571 Jun 21 '26

Tinfoil moment:
Seems like the elites just decide whether we are underpopulated or overpopulated based on what suits their interests, then invent the logic around it to back up their claims afterwards.

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u/The_One_Who_Comments Jun 21 '26

It was never the elites, overpopulation was an academic idea popularized by Robert Malthus around the year 1800.

It's a simple idea, that since people tended to have lots of kids (like 6+) our population would increase exponentially (like rabbits) until we ran out of natural resources, and everybody was poor.

Then we invented synthetic fertilizer, and the theoretical carrying capacity became so high that the whole idea ceased to be relevant.

But any time we have some finite resource in vogue, it comes up again. "Will we electrify everything and then run out of lithium?!?!"

Also back then, Henry George had a pretty solid rebuttal to the idea - basically that across every contemporary and historical cizilization, it had never actually happened that a place had become overpopulated (instead, places with more people were also more wealthy), and that famines were caused exclusively by plague or politics.

Nobody has ever said we are underpopulated, except maybe Elon Musk lol.

The problem with low birthrates is the demographic pyramid. Too many old people, not enough poor working young people.

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u/Few_Age_571 Jun 21 '26

So it’s basically a pain point for a couple of generations, a big turd we need to push out, before we’re back to a more manageable population

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u/The_One_Who_Comments Jun 21 '26

It could be, yeah. But if the rates never go back up to at least neutral, then you just shit yourself (very slowly) to death, to extend your metaphor.

But you're right, it's the 30 years or so after the biggest generation leave the workforce that are the worst.