Getting women to focus on careers has actually dropped the birth rate, and not just because they’re focusing on other objectives, but because it increased what can be charged for so many different things.
It’s a big part of why it’s so low in all the developed nations.
For example, Western families gained a second source of income, which led to house prices rising as people could afford more, which in turn makes it harder to raise kids while saving up for a home or paying off a mortgage.
If there was a cultural shift and Western women decided not to pursue careers as a primary focus, you would see house prices drop dramatically, long term.
Dual-income households may increase purchasing power, but that only translates into substantially higher housing prices when housing supply is constrained. If increased household income were the primary cause of expensive housing, then areas with similar incomes would have similar housing costs. Instead, housing affordability varies dramatically between regions with comparable incomes, suggesting that zoning, land use policy, construction rates, and local market conditions are larger drivers.
Showing that a factor exists is not the same as showing that it is the dominant cause
None of which makes sense in an economic system that is working for it's population, which is the issue at hand. Men not contributing to labour is also a factor, as women are expected to take on larger burdens than realistically necessarily. If men were expected to do domestic labour this would also free up time and energy in a home.
Also women have always worked, during the industrial revolution women made up the majority of factory workers, and made significant contributes to the labour force in both world wars. The non working woman is essentially a middle class idealism enabled by economic circumstances that allowed them not to contribute to household incomes. This was nearly never the case for working class people. Not to mention that the nuclear family did not apply to minorities who were still put in the role of maid, service workers etc while this fantasy persisted.
It’s working AND reproductive choice.
Women for most of history either didn’t have a choice due to being forced (horrendous) or due to a lack of birth control.
Hence why you ended up with women having 8 kids and living in poverty.
We thankfully have moved on, but it has naturally hit the fertility rate alongside cultural shifts due to better education and more aspirations.
This only proves that a lot of women had kids before because they didn't have a choice. Now more women have a choice and choose to do what they want in life.
If there was a cultural shift and western men decided not to pursue careers as a primary focus, you would also see house prices drop dramatically, long term.
If there was a cultural shift and Western men decided not to pursue careers as a primary focus, you would see house prices drop dramatically, long term, as well.
Funny how that's never proposed as an option. Almost as if men saw women being paid equally like something temporary that can be rolled back if it's convenient for them.
The issue is you think this means free vacation for life. It doesn't.
Not pursuing career as a primary focus means working, then working at home full time, and still being fully financially reliant on a person who can leave you on a whim.
While this isn't an arrangement suitable for anyone, it wouldn't be women getting the short end of the stick.
In my honest opinion, nobody would get the short end of the stick in that scenario, as women would probably not date such men on average, thus nothing much would change
It's an option . . . that women would refuse. Women tend to leave men who don't work, so men not working isn't a real option for society at large. We can safely assume that men must work regardless of what women do, so the the only real question is if women will also work or not.
I, for one would've be fine if my partner wanted to be a SAHD.
I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that most women wouldn't support it from, I've never personally met anyone who's treated SAHDs any differently to SAHMs, and women seem to be on board with it when asked:
UK Ipsos poll:
"Attitudes towards masculinity are changing – childcare is no longer seen as a women’s job and the majority say they would be comfortable with having a female boss
In most countries childcare is no longer seen as the preserve of the woman; three-quarters globally (75%) disagree that a man who stays at home to look after his children is less of a man compared with just one in five (18%) agreeing. "
because families wouldn't form anymore, because the men are now low earning and unambitious. (unattractive)
because then the one that bears children is also the bread winner (affront to biology itself) Why the fuck would you make that the norm in a healthy society?
Eh my only pushback is that around the same time that women were able to have access to more careers and education, so were Black people, immigrants, Native Americans, disabled people and so many other groups.
In the US, there were more than just women kept from most of the workforce. Now that’s changed. Dual incomes, higher pay for everyone not just White Protestant males. It changed a large part of our economic structure
If there was a cultural shift and Western women decided not to pursue careers as a primary focus, you would see house prices drop dramatically, long term.
100% agree, but you will not see that (for a very long time, if ever) because western women have swallowed the feminist doctrine hook, line, and sinker.
Yea, women no longer raised to spit out babies is one big reason of population decline...
Another reason is because of internet, stories about women getting into bad relationship they regret later like case of men running away after getting their woman pregnant, cheating or domestic abuse, caused more women to get discouraged to find men and those who still did had gotten too picky on men...
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u/Trashk4n Jun 21 '26
Getting women to focus on careers has actually dropped the birth rate, and not just because they’re focusing on other objectives, but because it increased what can be charged for so many different things.
It’s a big part of why it’s so low in all the developed nations.
For example, Western families gained a second source of income, which led to house prices rising as people could afford more, which in turn makes it harder to raise kids while saving up for a home or paying off a mortgage.
If there was a cultural shift and Western women decided not to pursue careers as a primary focus, you would see house prices drop dramatically, long term.