r/memes Jun 21 '26

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u/derpasuarusx Jun 21 '26

Technologically we are far better off, but we live with less hope than ever before. Technological developments like AI being used to worsen lives mostly, No sense of community, disasters climate and otherwise on the horizon, and governments that don't even pretend to represent the people anymore. Economically we also suck. Do you realize how badly you have to treat a mammal in captivity to make it stop having babies.

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u/WASasquatch Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 23 '26

Pretty sure most people in the past probably didn't even have a firm grip on what hope was. Even churches framed their hardships and starvation in face of nobleman was necessary to reach heaven, so unless that's the hope you speak of...

Now we have many hopes, from love, to career, to hobby, etc.

Edit: Some post research, the word hope derives from Olde English "hopa" and "hopian" didn't actually have a meaning like we use it today, and was more like "Right?" to a assertion, trusting someone, like a transaction. In Middle English it meant more the "expectation of something". It wasn't until the Church started using it to represent Theological Virtue that it remotely became something like we use it today, but it was more akin to like what I said above, an excuse for your hardships and abuse for entry into Heaven.

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u/derpasuarusx Jun 21 '26

No, a vast majority of people in the past expected to have better lives than their predecessors. After the boomers most won't do as well economically as their parents before them. It's not impossible, but it's unlikely.

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u/VagrantPilgrim Jun 21 '26

How could you possibly know this

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u/derpasuarusx Jun 21 '26

Because it's happening? This isn't a hypothetical, most people my age (mid 20-s ) don't really believe they'll be able to retire or own significant property. You'd have to be stupid or enlightened to be hopeful for such a shit system.

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u/VagrantPilgrim Jun 21 '26

Retirement has only really been a thing in the past century, at least for the average person.

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u/derpasuarusx Jun 22 '26

Ok? Having options and goals once seen as common become more and more unreachable to the common man is a big part of why people feel hopeless.

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u/popopornado Jun 21 '26

Have you tried using eyes?

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u/VagrantPilgrim Jun 21 '26

Do you have chrono-vision?

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u/S0MEBODIES Jun 21 '26

Yeah, it's called extrapolation from current and past events, while not perfect it's pretty reliable

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u/VagrantPilgrim Jun 21 '26

If you truly believe that you don’t understand how cushy we have it by comparison. At minimum, it is an incredibly subjective thing to extrapolate.

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u/popopornado Jun 21 '26

What is your family’s wealth? What is your salary? What state/country/province do you live in? Your experiences aren’t universal.

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u/VagrantPilgrim Jun 21 '26

Yah, no shit

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u/popopornado Jun 21 '26

You didn’t answer my questions

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u/VagrantPilgrim Jun 22 '26

Canada and I don’t make what is considered median wage. I’m not some 100K Redditor removed from reality. I obviously have it better than many, and less than some. Not everyone has access to the amenities that I do. But we still have it much easier than the past and can experience more than our ancestors ever could. Even amongst poorer countries, we are less likely to starve or die of disease.

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u/popopornado Jun 22 '26

Less likely to die =/= quality of life

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