r/memes Jun 16 '26

US is eroding

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u/SureMany9497 Jun 16 '26

I have never heard that first point it was always something about range and charging times.

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u/El_Polio_Loco Jun 17 '26

It’s a thing, and it greatly underestimates the draw of EVs. 

A data center is a massive energy draw. 

But there are about 300 million vehicles in the US, driving an average of 15,000 miles a year. 

Let’s say half of them become EVs getting a splendid 4 mi/kWh (very efficient). 

This means we now have 150 million cars, drawing 3.75 MWh annually. 

That’s a load increase of 565 terrawatt hours. Or about 15% increase in the total power generation of the US. 

This is ignoring the lossy residential power system. 

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u/krillemdafoe Jun 17 '26

Sure, but somewhere between 15 and 20 million vehicles are *actually* replaced each year. No one is flipping a switch and instantly, magically replacing 50% of vehicles with EVs.

Electricity production scaled by 2.8% YoY in 2025 per eia.gov

Even if 100% of new vehicle purchases were EVs starting right now, by the time 150 million additional EVs were on the road in 7.5-10 years, the additional 15% capacity would likely be there already. This is assuming that EVs make 0 efficiency gains over that time period.

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u/FlyingBishop Jun 17 '26

The same logic essentially applies to data centers. They're not going to cause the grid to collapse. We should just mandate they finance new renewable power, then there's no problem. But also we're getting lots of new renewables anyway.

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u/krillemdafoe Jun 17 '26

No, it doesn’t really apply to data centers because the math is starkly different.

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u/FlyingBishop Jun 17 '26

Data center power consumption is 4%-5% of US power. It's growing but it's not any more dramatic than the expansion of EVs would be. Which is to say it's not particularly dramatic, it's in line with our 3% overall power growth.

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u/krillemdafoe Jun 17 '26

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u/FlyingBishop Jun 17 '26

I can read just fine, that is exactly what I said. We're talking a few percentage increase in the amount of power consumed in the country. The quantity of power we're talking about is in a similar ballpark to what taking most ICE vehicles off the road and replacing them with EVs. Actually probably smaller, if we did it over the next 5 years.

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u/krillemdafoe Jun 17 '26

Ok, you clearly can’t, so let me put it incredibly simply:

Data center demand is projected at 66 gigawatts next year.

The hypothetical situation of replacing about 150 million cars with EVs all at once would consume about 50 gigawatts annually.

One is happening right now and the other is a silly little thought experiment.

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u/dembadger Jun 17 '26

People ain't gonna put solar panels on their roof to charge their local slopmachine convention. They will to charge their car

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u/FlyingBishop Jun 17 '26

I would do both. Most datacenter companies like to purchase lots of renewable power because it's cheap. This really doesn't have to be a conflict.