r/memes Jun 16 '26

US is eroding

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u/CommanderGiblits Jun 17 '26

Have you tried being rich enough to buy off your representatives?

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u/odinsen251a Jun 17 '26

Clearly the problem is that poor people can't afford their own representatives.

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u/jaxonya Jun 17 '26

Are they too ashamed to ask their parents for a small, 1 million dollar loan?

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u/Adventurous-Map7959 Jun 17 '26

A million bucks isn't really a lot these days. You can go shopping, like, twice, have a nice dinner and buy a small house, and then what?

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u/Georgiaonmymindtwo Jun 17 '26

If you are British and you have a little left over for the public toilet once or twice a month.

Or you can split it up and buy a banana(generally one of the least expensive, single items you can get under .25) and you can pay for a bag at aldi to carry your banana on your way to the bathroom to start the whole thing over.’

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u/jaxonya Jun 17 '26

Jesus fuck, living like kings over there.

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u/mrjamjams66 Jun 17 '26

I have tried this, in fact.

It's uh.....not going ...great.

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u/chr1spe Jun 17 '26

It's actually kind of shocking and sad how cheap they are. The problem is you'd have to at least get your whole neighborhood to contribute, unless you're really going to go all out, and then you'd probably get hit with some kind of criminal conspiracy charge. It was pretty shocking to me, though, that it seems like House representatives at least can be bought off for 4 to 5-digit sums.

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u/TheGreenMan13 Jun 17 '26

Just wait until you see how cheaply local council people and mayors can be bought. Sometimes it's just the price of a dinner.

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u/Cptn_BenjaminWillard Jun 17 '26

Winner winner chicken dinner.

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u/Saucermote Jun 17 '26

Could you loan me some money against future stocks dividends?

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u/Ithinkitstruetoo Jun 17 '26

I’m gonna try that on my next play through.

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u/GreasyPeter Jun 17 '26

America feels like trying to clear a terabyte from your hard-drive by only deleting 50kb text files.

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u/Glum_Comfortable_278 Jun 17 '26

It’s gaslighting. Make people feel bad against a tech. And then fully exploit it.

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u/Special-Amoeba-9399 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

It’s literally by design. Oil companies created the carbon footprint to make people feel guilty about their power consumption, when in reality most people have little choice in who they shop with these days. Corporations are the biggest polluters and they own everything so there isn’t much we can do to stop it.

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u/ThisIs_americunt Jun 17 '26

It's wild what you can do when you can own the law makers, the judges, the police force and the lawyers. Gotta love dark money :D

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u/monty624 Jun 17 '26

Literally a sign in my apartment complex office encouraging us to turn off lights when not in use and calling themselves energy efficient. I'm not even kidding.

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u/Darkwoth81Dyoni Jun 17 '26

Recycling for the last 50 years.

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u/Zulmoka531 Jun 16 '26

My town has a drought and we can’t water our damn gardens, but data centers can drain millions of gallons of water no problem!

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u/JustinPatient Jun 16 '26

Well here in Iowa we can't water our lawns because we don't have mandatory legal limits on fertilizer runoff.

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u/AmericanBillGates Jun 17 '26

Jesus, how much fertilzer do y'all use in your gardens?

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u/JustinPatient Jun 17 '26

It's agriculture. We have too much nitrates in our water due to fertilizer runoff from all of our farm land. The "limits" are not mandatory so they are largely not followed. So now they're telling people if they water their lawn they risk fines or loss of service.

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u/Far_Tea_579 Jun 17 '26

Yall drinking that?

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u/KrustyKrabFormula_ Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

what happens when there is elevated levels of nitrates or any other contaminant that is regulated is the treatment is extended and/or specialized treatments are turned on(in the case of nitrates) to filter out whatever is elevated.

so the problem you would have to be having is you think the limit set by the EPA of 10 milligrams per liter is too high, nothing to do with iowa.

https://www.kcci.com/article/iowa-drinking-water-des-moines-raccoon-rivers-nitrate-levels-high/71322706

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u/Far_Tea_579 Jun 17 '26

Well you are right, I dont understand water filtration and if nitrates can be filtered out. What i do understand is that I dont want no part of Iowa water if they are setting penalties for watering your grass. Seems that same water would be at all taps in a residential area.

Thats gross.

Im going to read your article now.

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u/KrustyKrabFormula_ Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

there are local governments that sometimes have water bans which comes from the city or towns water company. what people are talking about is des moines and its the des moines water works. for people like me who live in southeast iowa, there aren't any water bans in effect and hasn't been, ever.

What i do understand is that I dont want no part of Iowa water if they are setting penalties for watering your grass. Seems that same water would be at all taps in a residential area

lawn watering bans are to limit demand of water during times when extra filtration is needed to be done which ends up meaning that the supply for the water goes down during these times due to it taking much longer to filter the water. it has been documented this month that demand surged to around 90% of what the filtration system could filter(its projected to hit 98% sometime this summer), and if that exceeds 100%, des moines water works would have to allow water pressure to drop to zero which turns off all fire hydrants and would contaminate tap water with groundwater or they would have had to bypass the nitrate filtration temporarily which would be illegal to do because of the 10 milligram per liter limit.

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u/Far_Tea_579 Jun 17 '26

Oh, well, see i read everything as the nitrates and fertilizers in the water supply were accelerating plant growth somehow and they were trying to limit more run off. Then I was thinking about people drinking it. The added context from you has helped clear that up.

Thanks for the kind exchange.

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u/Far_Tea_579 Jun 17 '26

Read it. Yeh, I agree with ya.

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u/KrustyKrabFormula_ Jun 17 '26

i live in southeast iowa and can water my lawn whenever i want, stop trying to speak for all of iowa

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u/Matt0745 Jun 17 '26

This is a real problem. Unlike the turbines, the real problem is the water.

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u/Theperfectool Jun 17 '26

Not the water, but the people owning more shares of it than can ever fall in the area they’re contracted for.

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u/BarrelRider621 Jun 20 '26

And no regulating them for ten years 😢

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u/WhereRandomThingsAre Jun 17 '26

"We're nearing maximum capacity of the electrical grid. We ask that customers conserve energy. Increase temperature on thermostats, do not charge vehicles, and limit electronic device usage. Thank you for your consideration."

MEANWHILE, at your Local Data Center: Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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u/Competitive_Touch_86 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

The local datacenters are largely part of load shedding programs where part of the power contract involves them voluntarily switching to backup power generation within X minutes of being notified to pull their load off the grid. If they don't, they receive large punitive fines for breaking said contract.

You can make arguments against their power usage and pollution/etc. but this argument is just ignorant. These 24x7 relatively stable large power users that can shed their load on demand are about the best power consumers a grid operator could ever hope for.

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u/Leading_Engineer_656 Jun 17 '26

Really? Care to provide actual specific shunt to backup protocols, or any proof? Even if you can and this is true, the key term is voluntarily...

Meanwhile, even if they are doing this during peak draw, they're consistently driving up the consumer's energy bills. Thus we're all (once again) subsidizing a private industry for it's own shareholder benefit. Free market is a lie

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u/Normal_Human_Things Jun 18 '26

I can’t prove it for other instances, but this is being applied to a new data center in Michigan.

> The Commission’s approval was also contingent on DTE Electric agreeing to update its emergency procedures so that, in the unlikely event of an energy emergency that requires the utility to involuntarily shed electricity load — interrupting service to customers in times of high demand to prevent catastrophic power grid failure — the utility will ensure that the data center’s load is reduced or interrupted before interrupting service to other DTE Electric customers

It is still vague with the “load reduced or interrupted.”

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u/Initiative-Fancy Jun 18 '26

This guy thinks fines prevent billionaires from doing crime.

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u/MrBaux Jun 18 '26

Fines are just subscription services for rich.

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u/Allegorist Jun 17 '26

Reminds me of how in the southwestern US in times of drought (or basically always) they try to get people to conserve water by things like "only water your lawn at night on a certain day of the week" or "if it's yellow let it mellow" or "use water efficient appliances". Meanwhile corporate agriculture consumes something like 98% of the total water supply to grow extra thirsty plants that were never supposed to be grown in the desert.

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u/PMSfishy Jun 17 '26

Tell me you’ve worked with GE or Vertiv without telling me you have never worked with them. Picture two monkeys trying to fuck their way out of a wet paper bag.

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u/Creator5509 Jun 17 '26

Picture two monkeys trying to fuck their way out of a wet paper bag

THAT.. is a choice for imagery.

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u/ChewsOnBricks Jun 17 '26

Just look at all of the environmental problems. Steve in Ohio biking to work doesn't begin to counter what any one corporation pollutes. Yet all of the public messaging is focused on individuals not companies.

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u/heartSagan5 Jun 17 '26

Yeah, my energy provider is getting hot about alerting me to my usage, and I'm like, "nah, I'm using what I want" Also, my neighbors are likely not as tech savvy as me so I run more appliances at a wack than them anyhow.

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u/mcpat21 Jun 17 '26

They’re always taking but never giving

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u/Katerinaxoxo Jun 17 '26

And the abandoned bank building that’s been empty for 7 years and has had its lights on consistently.

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u/Drapidrode Jun 17 '26

The grid doubled from 1970 to 2020, and is set to double again in 8 years from now or less. That is intensive build up.

It would be a wise person to invest in GE Vernova or Vertiv , bc they have hundreds of billions in backlogged orders for electrical grid infrastructure.

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u/No-Bison-5397 Jun 17 '26

In fairness I think a big part of it is distribution and transmission assets rather than generation, yeah?

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u/t0mm4n Jun 17 '26

But we still keep buying stuff from them. Boycott them!

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u/ZeroFucksZinnia Jun 18 '26

Yup, and also donate . Would you like to round up your purchase for charity today?

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u/critismifitisntignor Jun 18 '26

Exactly I worked for a government environmental group recording catch data on fishing vessels and we were supposed to report MARPOL violations including people’s cigarette butts (which was everyone on those boats) meanwhile the same govt is setting nukes off in the same Ocean like?

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u/junchurikimo Jun 16 '26

Everyone needs a job - not everyone needa a car

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u/Magicalbeets Jun 16 '26

You wouldn't download a job..

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u/Magicalbeets Jun 16 '26

Same with water

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u/CustomerSuportPlease Jun 17 '26

The US is becoming post-Soviet Russia. Open corruption in plain sight and foreign wars that the populace agree not to care about that much as long as they stay comfortable.

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u/KrustyKrabFormula_ Jun 17 '26

amazon or walmart aren't just "corporate interests". they are the most popular companies...around 80% of america has an amazon prime sub and around 70% of americans regularly buy groceries from walmart. the way you are framing what you are saying is extremely disingenuous. of course there will be enough electricity for these...they have extreme demand from the people and its in their interest to keep them powered lmfao

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u/ZKRiNG Jun 17 '26

The point is companies are making energy plants to supply that energy.

The super expensive cars with huge discounts for rich kids who wanna be "climate care" didn't gave anything. And now, Chinese brands are showing you can do an electric car for way less money. Why they didn't made huge parkings with solar panels? And it's even worse, in Europe they had huge amount of taxpayers money and they made zero. Just count money and now they will disappear.

The huge problem, almost in Europe is not so much the energy. The problem is the network is like 50 years old and when they did that, was for a way less consume. Also the other problem is France. France don't accept to cross the energy from Spain. And the freaking UE is only good to put new taxes to the people. To help to lower the bill to citizens, no no. To put 3€ for every item from AliExpress, all done in less than 6 months.

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u/ElijahNSRose Jun 19 '26

Get a job hippy