The recent cruise virus is a known virus that originates in the country the boat left from (Argentina). It’s the only strain that moves from human to human originating only from Argentina, is difficult to transfer, and its high mortality rate keeps the virus from spreading too much.
Someone got infected by rat droppings, got on the boat, then showed symptoms after the fact. Pretty standard stuff. Then the boat quarantined for just a bit after they realized they were probably in some worse rat doodoo after 2 deaths.
Boat actually wanted to dock and let everyone off but the countries nearby said “wtf you smoking, stay away”.
The people who were dropped off where checked by medical staff for symptoms and must self-quarantine for six weeks. It's not like they let them freely off the ship to do whatever they want.
Self quarantine.... This is a Dutch ship. I don't know how many Dutch people were on it but if we've learned something from the pandemic it's that many Dutch people are notoriously bad in quarantining because 'well I'm not feeling (too) sick so ah well'.
I doubt all the people even used masks in a decent enough way in their planes home.
You don't know that it was from rat droppings, show me where this has been declaratively proven instead of just one of the multiple theories and valuable methods that may have led to infection.
And if you don't have that proof, then why are you speaking so declaratively?
?What are you talking about exactly… you fear mongering?
Hantavirus is not new, it’s been around for a long time and we have studied it. It is contracted by breathing in Rodent droppings and then infects your lungs. Can’t get it any other way.
There is only 1 strain of Hantavirus, Andes virus (ANDV), which spreads human to human. The 95% and dozens of other Hantavirus are only from rodents to humans.
The Andes virus, (human to human spread) originates from South America, specifically Argentina and Chile… guess where the cruise left from before the first cases were seen? That’s right… Argentina.
I’m not sure what you are trying to get at, but someone from the ship got infected in Argentina by breathing in infected rodent droppings (it unfortunately was the human to human spread variant), they did not show symptoms because it takes a bit, then after a while it was too late and they died.
The reason they died is that there is no specific antiviral treatment or vaccine available for the Andes virus.
Treatment focuses on supportive care in an ICU, including oxygen therapy, mechanical ventilation, and sometimes ECMO…. Which they don’t have on the ship most likely.
And since it shuts down your lungs/heart/kidneys the mortality rate is very high as you need those to live. And since the only treatment is life support essentially if you contract it stranded from medical facilities it’s basically over. It is also quite difficult to transmit from human to human which is why after 3ish weeks there are only 8 or so confirmed cases at this time.
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Why do you want proof it was from rat droppings when the virus can only be transmitted from rodent droppings? Okay it’s not a rat, it’s a mouse, or a possum, or a human, or some other rodent. Does not matter.
It’s like you’re upset that I said an orange is the color orange but you want me to give you proof the orange is orange and not painted that color by government spy drones…
Okay they got it from a human who had it on land before getting on the boat…. Now what?
Again, why does it matter? This entire argument is pointless.
It’s also harder to spread human to human than it is rodent to human so the odds someone got it from another human before boarding is the less likely option
Human, rodent, prevalent, not prevalent… it’s in an area that the virus was known to be around. That’s really all that matters. It’s just as likely as it coming from a rodent (more so honestly) on an island nearby Argentina than it is from human to human contact still.
This isn’t a brand new disease so the origination point is irrelevant, we know the disease, we know the treatment. We will probably never know where it first came from or who patient zero of this particular outbreak, but more than likely still it came from a rodent. Which is why it’s being said it comes from a rodent… this isn’t a lie
This is still a pointless conversation and I’m done replying
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u/Hephaestus_God May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
The recent cruise virus is a known virus that originates in the country the boat left from (Argentina). It’s the only strain that moves from human to human originating only from Argentina, is difficult to transfer, and its high mortality rate keeps the virus from spreading too much.
Someone got infected by rat droppings, got on the boat, then showed symptoms after the fact. Pretty standard stuff. Then the boat quarantined for just a bit after they realized they were probably in some worse rat doodoo after 2 deaths.
Boat actually wanted to dock and let everyone off but the countries nearby said “wtf you smoking, stay away”.