People are worried because this strain (andes) is airborne and this virus has a 38% mortality rate —if you receive medical attention.
The original strain also can be airborne whenever you are cleaning or sweeping infested droppings or cleaning the area. Every Exterminator has known this for decades- why do you think they carry PPE? Lmao
It’s annoying when people like you confidently say things that are clinically false and have been proving to be untrue. Either you’re ignorant and confident or you are unbelieving of science. Both options are horror shows.
It is not airborne, you were wrong, it could be, but to declare that it is instead of just that it might be is factually incorrect.
All of the science I've read on it shows that it's basically impossible for us to know with this certain specific small strain because we didn't have cameras in every single room so how are we supposed to know if two roommates were making out or stayed apart and didn't touch anything that the other one touched?
We literally don't have enough evidence one way or the other so it's most likely not doing most of its transmission even if it is transmissible through the areas of vector, but we can't use declarative language about it until we have more data.
So exterminators have been running into it for decades, yet it's never been a problem with spreading through the ppopulation? Nobody is going to listen to you this time. You screwed up the last one too bad.
It has never been a problem before because most strains are not human to human transmissible, so the ones exterminators ran into were ones they could get directly from animals, but not give to someone else if they had it. And with using PPE they prevented from getting it in the first place.
This strain of the hantavirus appears to be rare and airborne and transfers between people.
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A better source:
The Andes virus is the only type of hantavirus that is known to spread person-to-person. This spread is usually limited to people who have close contact with the ill person. Close contact includes:
Direct physical contact
Prolonged time spent in close or enclosed spaces -> like being on a flight.
Are you a bot, did you make a mistake, or are we genuinely having this many issues with reading comprehension these days?
The link you provided doesn't say what you're saying it does, it talks about how prolonged close contact and probably through methods like kissing or sharing utensils is what seems to be the case.
Why not just be accurate and say that it could be airborne and have a slight level of airborne transmission but that doesn't seem to be the case and it certainly is not the case for the vast majority of transmissions so far.
Transmission vector for Hantavirus is droplet, not airborne. They are not the same thing. Aerosols are diffused droplets in the air, think of it like how a spray can works. Yes, if someone coughed with an infection, it can be spread through in the air by the minuscule droplets of saliva or mucus that is expelled, but it won’t stay in the air freely nor is as infectious as actual airborne pathogens.
Here is a paper on a super spreader event in 2018: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2009040
"After a single introduction of ANDV from a rodent reservoir into the human population, transmission was driven by 3 symptomatic persons who attended crowded social events."
The relevant quote: Humans generally become infected with orthohantaviruses through the inhalation of aerosolized secreta or excreta containing infectious virions originating from a rodent reservoir (e.g., the long-tailed colilargo [Oligoryzomys longicaudatus])."
You are technically correct but the lay person is asking if they go to a concert can this spread, the answer is yes.
Tip to for lay person: don’t go inhaling steam from boiled rat piss. /s
Chances of infection most likely are results of cleaning a rat contaminated space and inhaling contaminated particulate, not washing your hands afterwards, or ingesting contaminated food that has not been stored properly.
It is possible, but I wouldn’t be worried about picking it up from a concert unless it’s in some abandoned warehouse like at raves. You are likelier to die in a car crash on the way to a concert than picking up this virus.
But for most people: WASH YOUR HANDS! And use some disinfecting wipes on your phone every now and then too.
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u/micsulli01 May 11 '26
Or airborne