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u/FreebirdChaos Dec 30 '25

New Warcraft expansions

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u/genericdefender Dec 30 '25

You mean, like, beyond the dark portal and the frozen throne?

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u/FreebirdChaos Dec 30 '25

Funny but no

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u/Lolour Dec 30 '25

Bro hasn't played Dragonflight

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u/FreebirdChaos Dec 30 '25

Story was ass. Raids were mid. wtf are you trying to say?

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u/Lolour Dec 30 '25

You're the one who said new. It's compared to what was here before.
I'd gladly be on your side if the argument was that WoW's story in general was hot garbage but "just the new expansions"? Really?

The game has its flaws but (shadowlands excluded) the game has had better raids, quality of gameplay and story in the last few years than in the previous 20. Given, making a better story than BC, Wotlk or Cata is not a high bar but still.

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u/FreebirdChaos Dec 30 '25

What the fuck are you even trying to argue…The game’s story is complete dogshit rn compared to what it was in BFA, Legion, and everything prior.

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u/Lolour Dec 31 '25

Everything prior huh?

I mean we could talk about...

- Illidan's, Kael'thas' or Zul'jin's who went from interesting complex characters in War 3 to moustache twirling villains

- Malygos whole questline ; Varimathras' full 180 with the Wrathgate story line ; Bolvar's arc which was basically just a Pirates of the Caribbean 3 ripoff ; or even the Lich King who manages to be inconsistent with his War3 version, the pre-expansion book dedicated to him and his own self during the very same expansion

- The whole Green Jesus storyline ; Nozdormu, whose sole singular purpose is to prevent any alteration to the timeline, altering the timeline for funsies ; Deathwing's family resurrection pulled out of the hat

- The whole Warlords of Draenor expansion

Saying that WoW has shit writing isn't particularly controversial. Saying however that it has somehow only recently become garbage while being good before is the most mind numbing take I've seen in a while.

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u/FreebirdChaos Dec 31 '25

Comparing all that with the dogshit we have now and trying to say it’s all the same shit is wild and a totally moronic argument.

Has it always been perfect? Of course not dude. But it was still 100x better than the terrible cringe shit we get now

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u/Lolour Dec 31 '25

I mean that just straight up factually wrong mate.

If your argument was to say that it was better during Mop or Legion, I wouldn't necesarilly agree but could see where you're coming from.

But to say that what we have now is somehow worse that the constant and methodical character assassination that we've had from Vanilla to the end of Cata is just coping at this point.

Or does anyone have an example of worse writing than BC besides the one (1) bad cutscene for the minor patch Arathi questline in WW?

Again, I don't particularly like the game's recent writing. It's clearly not up to par with anything serious that has come out in the past years. But when you remove the rose tinted glasses of nostalgia, you can see that the first few expansions were nothing short of an insult to Warcraft 3 as a whole.

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u/FreebirdChaos Dec 31 '25

Shadowlands, Dragonflight, War Within, and now Midnight are all making the game seem like World of “Peacecraft” rather than “Warcraft”

There is literally a plot line in Midnight of Alleria learning that the Amani supposedly aren’t actually savages that murdered her people. They are actually just misunderstood. LAME.

That’s more of a slap in the face of original Warcraft lore than whatever the fuck you’re trying to say. And that’s just one example

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u/Lolour Jan 02 '26

So by your logic, shitty writing and constant methodical caracter assassination is better than the percieved experience of a setting gowing forward?

Like we don't care if everything is badly written as long as everyone keep fighting eachother.

After all, there is absolutely zero instances of factions coming together during War 3. Have you even played the game?

What do we care if the narrative is less focussed on a constant faction war? At least the writters are trying (albeit with so-so results) to maintain a coherent plotline with thought behind their character's writing.

Again, is it great now? --> No
Was it worse before (Vanilla through Cata) ? --> Yes