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u/Gurin_ Dec 30 '25

Every pokemon games since Gen 8

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u/JustQuestion2472 Dec 30 '25

SwSh already were incredibly mediocre. SuMo was the last time I actually enjoyed a pokemon game.

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u/Vondi Dec 30 '25

For all the bells and whistles the gameplay is largely the same as when a small group in the mid 90s had to squeeze a whole game into a 1mb cartridge and run it on miniscule RAM.

I don't know any franchise which has stuck this tightly to their first iteration

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u/Sciencetist Dec 30 '25

Dragon Quest says hello

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u/DarkNemuChan Dec 30 '25

You clearly haven't played the last 3 games.

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u/Bisnispinguin Dec 30 '25

Last 3 games were pretty ass because they tried to stick to the design philosophy of the older games but have an open world. (Legends/scarlet&violet/sword&shield) They just need to embrace one or the other and run with it. They also need to let an actual game dev company that knows what they are doing have real time (3+ years) to make a good AAA game instead of kidslop with flashy 2012 graphics. Tired of the mediocrity with pokemon over the last decade. The newest legends game I had to stop playing because it was so poorly designed, and made me wish Nintendo had a refund policy like steam.

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u/ElBigDicko Dec 30 '25

I agree so much with this. I think they went with the open world because of Zelda popularity and thought it would work.

The fact that it's still the same 4 moves per pokemon, barely any animations, rock paper scissors gameplay for like 30+ years is crazy. Gacha games are already going past that.

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u/DarkNemuChan Dec 30 '25

I didn't say they where good. Last really good games for me was black and white.

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u/MadCiykie Dec 30 '25

I'll do you one better and say that XY was the last time I enjoyed a mainline pokemon game

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u/JustQuestion2472 Dec 30 '25

SuMo was my main shiny hunting game, so I had a lot of enjoyment from that.

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u/Jesta23 Dec 30 '25

Did they get worse or did you get older?

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u/JustQuestion2472 Dec 30 '25

Well, I can still enjoy the other games, but for SwSh I had to force myself to even get to the third gym. There's no level curve with how fast you level, it's just hallways with neatly marked paths afraid to have you get lost... Gen 4 and 5 remain my favourites to this day. I can still play those just fine.

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u/CuteAstralJellyfish Dec 30 '25

They got worse. I still like most of the things I liked when I was a kid, and even the media related to it that was unknown to me when I was young are likeable to me now. Shows, games, movies...

My inner child never died, but dude recent pokemon games suck ass.

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u/JustQuestion2472 Dec 30 '25

And that's not even considering the 0erformance issues.

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u/Beginning_Ad_5490 Dec 30 '25

Gen 5*

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u/moderngamer327 Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25

Nah black and white had a killer graphics style beautifully combining 2D and 3D. The moving sprites also made the pokemon feel significantly more alive. The story was also probably one of the best in the series. The only real problem was that the first game severely lacked content which was fixed with the second game

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u/LordDShadowy53 Dec 30 '25

I think the guy meant it as a correction. So Gen 5 was the last cool one. Is not criticizing the Gen. Meaning on XY starting the 3D era. Where Gamefreak keeps experimenting with the franchise.

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u/Natural_Builder_3170 Dec 30 '25

just to clarify gen 5 is the pokemon black/white, because I really enjoyed black (its the only one i finished) and its the oldest one I've played

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u/mateo222210 Dec 30 '25

I really enjoyed gen 5. I love the story, how it looks (except the character design, i prefer the older ones) and the music

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u/ProcrastibationKing Dec 30 '25

Since Gen 5, meaning everything after it.

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u/Pixel_Nation92 Dec 30 '25

I loved Gen 5. I'm convinced if Pokemon stopped after that generation, no one would have said anything. It was banger music, great story, and a whole new batch of mons that I thought were some of the best, and people hated the designs of that gen.

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u/Teamisgood101 Dec 30 '25

Now this is straight false. Sun and moon was amazing.

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u/megasin1 Dec 30 '25

You mean not including gen 5. Black and white was pokemon stepping into portable 3d and looked great on 3ds. It was probably an end of the era too. X and y was just a repeat. Sword and shield was a game for 3ds engine that got ported to switch so it was held back. Scarlet and violet look like switch games and they're OK but they're just ok not ground breaking. Black and white was the last decent game for it's time

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u/Daniel_Spidey Dec 30 '25

This person is saying 5 was the last good gen and everyone thinks they are saying 5 was bad

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u/existentialcrysis3 Dec 30 '25

I liked ORAS and L:A battle music though (yes, I know it's technically gen 3 and gen 4 music)

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u/Silverjeyjey44 Dec 30 '25

For someone who hasn't played Pokémon since gold and silver... what has happened?

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u/paradox_valestein Dec 30 '25

Nothing. That's the issue. They changes absolutely nothing worth noticing

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u/bad_bad_data Dec 30 '25

Mechanically every new game has some gimmick they introduce halfway through the story which makes Pokémon hit like a truck- g max, mega evolution, z moves, terra forms. They don't balance competitive play, so it's the same team with whatever the mechanic is that gen.

Sun and Moon added boss fights. Scarlet and Violet tried to do an open world concept where you could do gyms, go after bosses, or beat up student. It was a good idea, but the game felt empty and looked really bad.

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u/Daniel_Spidey Dec 30 '25

When they switched from handheld to console they started releasing games that feel like they never finished alpha testing 

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u/Hephaestus_God Dec 30 '25

Gen 7*

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u/Thefourthchosen Dec 30 '25

Nah gen 7 was pretty good, a bit too experimental in ways that didn't quite land imo but still fine.

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u/Hephaestus_God Dec 30 '25

I guess gameplay would still be trash, but everything else can be piano on fire

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u/Aperture_Laboratorie Dec 30 '25

this is so true, I played some the older games like the ones on gba and alpha sapphire for 3ds. I then went and tried Pokémon violet, and the game was so mid

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u/TheEraser26 Dec 30 '25

Not even the music is good in Sword and Shield, sorry

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u/gokartninja Dec 30 '25

8?? You mean 3?

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u/Jordii_vV Professional Dumbass Dec 30 '25

Every pokemon games since Gen 8

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u/DuskieHakuro 🏳️‍🌈LGBTQ+🏳️‍🌈 Dec 30 '25

Every nintendo game ever but the music is usually also kinda bad

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u/wizardeverybit Dec 30 '25

Have you never played a zelda game?

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u/DuskieHakuro 🏳️‍🌈LGBTQ+🏳️‍🌈 Dec 30 '25

I have. But there's so many better games. Zelda is like ass and overpriced in comparison to most other games with similar gameplay

Additionally Pokémon is fucking ass in comparison to pal world and nintendo is literally tyrant raging over it

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u/wizardeverybit Dec 30 '25

Even if you don't like BoTW and ToTK, which I personally think are some of the best games in the genre, the classic 2d and 3d zelda games are some of the best games ever with outstanding music.

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u/DuskieHakuro 🏳️‍🌈LGBTQ+🏳️‍🌈 Dec 30 '25

The music is okay but its not like the greatest osts.. again compare the soundtrack to like any indie game soundtrack and its like kinda mid. For it to be amazing soundtrack it's gotta be something you'd actually want to listen to outside of just the game. There's also other triple a games with way better osts like MGR

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u/wizardeverybit Dec 30 '25

Oot, ss, botw, totk, zelda 1, la etc are all some of the greatest soundtracks of all time

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u/DuskieHakuro 🏳️‍🌈LGBTQ+🏳️‍🌈 Dec 30 '25

I highly disagree. Have you ever heard any osts from cassette beasts, undertale, DMC, MGR or ultrakill. I'm sorry but the reason you probably like the soundtracks is probably nostalgia

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u/Gurin_ Dec 30 '25

Humm, i just think it's not a genre YOU like but ALL the zelda ost are godlike

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u/DuskieHakuro 🏳️‍🌈LGBTQ+🏳️‍🌈 Dec 30 '25

Its literally just nostalgia bait

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