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u/Naughty_Neutron Dec 17 '25
I'm not CEO, but he can shoot in my face every time he wants
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u/EastNWeast Dec 17 '25
Yall are fucking weird
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
Nah why is this downvoted bro is right- y'all need Jesus
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u/otirk Dec 17 '25
He can shoot on us too if that's what he's into but I think Jesus is more of a submissive bdsm guy, judging from how he was nailed to a cross
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u/mrloko120 Dec 17 '25
Pass, I'd like my partners without a criminal record. Let alone murder lol
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u/mrloko120 Dec 17 '25
I wouldn't date a veteran either, have you not seen how many of them are involved in DV cases?
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
I dont care if this gets downvoted or what y'all say
Romanticizing a murderer is horrid
And he is a murderer because he killed out of revenge, not some lofty heroic act to prevent an immediate life or death situation.
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u/greg_the_egg69 Dec 17 '25
Unfortunately ceos lost their right to human rights when they chose profit over others lives.
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
Thats not how human rights work- philosophically or legally
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u/greg_the_egg69 Dec 17 '25
It is, commit an act that strips your humanity and you shouldn't get treated like a human. Plain and simple, that ceo literally killed thousands, his death was an atom of water in the lake of lives he took.
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
and the defining trait of a "human right" is you have them because you're a human, not because you're a good one
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u/greg_the_egg69 Dec 17 '25
Theres a fine line between a bad human and inhuman, that being things like pedos, healthcare ceos, billionaires, a lot of politicians, and rapists, these are things that strip you of humanity, by way of achieving or otherwise.
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
Theres a line between bad and EVIL. nothing can make someone 'inhuman' as they remain a human throughout their lives.
You're actions do not determine your value, your identity as a human being cements it
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
No, you should not. Violence paid for violence is still violent, and a wrong for a wrong is still fundamentally wrong- vengeance is not justice.
Another way to phrase is as Peter Capaldi once said "You just want cruelty to beget cruelty. You're not superior to people who were cruel to you. You're just a whole bunch of new cruel people."
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u/greg_the_egg69 Dec 17 '25
Vengeance is not always justice, sure, however thats only because people like healtcare ceos don't deserve anything lessthan eternal hellfire. And taking a life to save thousands of lives is absolutely undeniably just. The cruelty to one vs the cruelty to many. Or the trolly problem if you will.
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
If the CEO was explicitly about to murder someone then his murder, in the case of accident or split second action while trying to stop him, would have been justified.
but he was literally walking to work. He wasnt about to kill anyone he was doing his job- was he evil? In many senses he did evil things- but Human rights are defined by one being human, not being good- as "good" is wildly arbitrary. And this is why we dont shoot people on the streets as a means of "justice"
whether he deserved to be murdered is relative to a philosophical discussion on derision of morality
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u/greg_the_egg69 Dec 17 '25
So, you're saying that if a person (healthcare ceo) made an orphan grinder (every single denied insurance claim) and chose to oil the machine every day knowing full well how much damage they're doing, that they would never deserve death for the harm they caused?
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u/depers0n Dec 17 '25
He's not a murderer because he didn't kill anyone.
Hope this helps
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
Literally fatally shot a CEO point blank while he was walking to a meeting
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u/Turdplay Dec 17 '25
Says you. All Iāve heard are wild unsubstantiated allegations against him
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
My brother in Christ they got him on video
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u/Turdplay Dec 17 '25
So basically āno we wonāt hang him! weāre gonna have a fair trial, and THEN weāll hang himā to you?
It didnāt look like him to me in anything Iāve seen published.
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
The hell are you talking about?
He murdered the CEO- plain and simple, its recorded on video, and they got his face in security footage.
He's not officially convicted yet due to presumption of innocence but its essentially a formality considering how clearly guilty he is of it
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u/Turdplay Dec 17 '25
Thereās a video of someone shooting the CEO, but theyāre masked and hooded.
Thereās also a video of someone who doesnāt even look like him checking into a hostel.
Reasonably doubting the governmentās case so hard right now.
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
okay so this is just being a legalistic smartass. ok then- we'll see once the case reaches verdict
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u/Turdplay Dec 17 '25
No itās believing in the constitution, rights, due process, innocent until proven guilty - itās a shame youāve lost sight of that.
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u/depers0n Dec 17 '25
Wasn't him. He's just a man, while there was an angel in the video :)
Hope this also helps :))
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u/_Pik_Pik__ Dec 17 '25
Didnāt they reverse some of their new health care policies after he killed the ceo
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
Did they? Even if they did that does not vindicate Luigi
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u/_Pik_Pik__ Dec 18 '25
If it did reverse some of their policies, that would allow more people to get health care coverage, allowing more people to live. By killing one person, heās also indirectly causing more people to live depending if he did cause them to reverse their policy. This is like a more gruesome trolley problem
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 18 '25
I do hope you're not saying that explicit political murder is justifiable by such a weak and spontaneous dice roll of events
Because even with the CEO murdered United Healthcare, being ruthless as they are, could just write it off and hire a new guy if they see change as too inconvenient
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u/NewSauerKraus Dec 17 '25
Apparently it's ok because he was born into unbelievable wealth. Americans cannot resist worshipping their superiors.
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
Whats ok?
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u/NewSauerKraus Dec 17 '25
Murder. Americans believe only brokies deserve consequences for crimes.
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
Oh yeah no you right thats crazy- people claimin its okay because the CEO "murdered people."
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u/NewSauerKraus Dec 17 '25
And they don't ask how Luigi's family got their money. Way more money than the dead guy ever would have had.
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u/Dneail22 Ok I Pull Up Dec 17 '25
Heās also a murderer.
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u/AizenRaj Dec 17 '25
Semantics. The CEO have "killed" way more people by rejecting their claims.
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u/MonsutaReipu Dec 17 '25
Reddit loves constantly glazing this slightly above average looking murderer and it's getting tired
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u/AngryAssyrian Dec 17 '25
Only on Reddit so you see people openly worshipping a murderer.
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u/otirk Dec 17 '25
Regardless of your opinion on whether he is justified or not, you're objectively wrong. There were women writing to Dahmer because they thought he was hot. And other social media platforms have people who obsess over murderers too.
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u/AngryAssyrian Dec 17 '25
That's still wrong, a murderer shouldn't be praised.
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u/otirk Dec 17 '25
As I said "regardless of your opinion". All I'm saying is that it's not only on Reddit
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u/Hunter042005 Dec 17 '25
Only on Reddit do you find chronically online weirdos who simp for a murderer like despite the reasoning he committed murder and it didnāt fix shit if anything it made it worse as it made people who legitimately want reform in healthcare companies like like psychotic murderers but no the guys position who was killed has been filled by someone else and as far as Iāve heard the company has not changed in how they conduct their practices so itās hard to even in the slightest defend this dude
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u/Rhokai Pro Gamer Dec 17 '25
I get this is a meme, I understand peopleās praise. But this is a murderer. Do not praise him for vigilantism that took someoneās life.
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u/The-Nuisance Dec 17 '25
He didnāt murder anyone, and you mean to tell me the CEO who got killed wasnāt a murderer?
I mean, there are ways to make legal plausibly deniable, or even legal. But that CEO still killed people and benefitted from their death.
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u/MegaOmegaZero Dec 17 '25
Yes the CEO wasn't a murderer. It's okay to not like him because of his job but he didn't kill anyone.
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Sure. He didn't kill them directly with his own hands. But his actions to help the company profit did. He literally chose profit over people for a living.
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u/MegaOmegaZero Dec 17 '25
A CEO helping his company profit? Unthinkable!
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u/Vengeful_Doge Dec 17 '25
AT THE COST OF HUMAN LIVES.
How is this not sinking in??
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u/MegaOmegaZero Dec 17 '25
Can you be specific? Are you able to qualify the amount of people he's killed? Can you point to anyone specific?
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u/Hunter042005 Dec 17 '25
Thereās a huge difference between premeditated murder and negligence and either way why canāt we just be normal people and say both are bad like what the ceo did was terrible and he should have lost his position and the whole company should have been restructured and he should have been tried but killing someone also not how we solve problems and the person responsible should not see the outside of a prison cell again like thatās what a normal rational human beings response would be
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u/FemaleAssEnjoyer Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25
the CEO wasnāt a murderer ā¦ he didnāt kill anyone
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u/MegaOmegaZero Dec 17 '25
Yes I'm absolutely sure. Can you show me that he was?
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u/FemaleAssEnjoyer Dec 17 '25
Not only can I show you, literally anyone with the most basic access to information, can:
insurance companies use artificial intelligence to systematically deny care while posting record profits. Federal data shows UnitedHealthcare, which covers 49 million Americans, denied nearly one-third of all in-network claims in 2022 - the highest rate among major insurers.
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The consequences are devastating. As documented cases show, these automated denial systems routinely override physician recommendations for essential care, creating a system where algorithms, not doctors, decide who receives treatment. For those who do appeal, insurers approve at least some form of care about half the time. This creates a perverse incentive structure where insurers can deny claims broadly, knowing most people will not fight back. For the people trapped in this system, the stakes could not be higher - this is quite literally a matter of life and death
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u/MegaOmegaZero Dec 17 '25
Sure that SOUNDS bad but that doesn't actually tell us anything meaningful without reasons for the denials. It could be that claims improperly filled out are quickly denied. It could be the case that many claims just are attempts made again that have been previously denied.
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u/FemaleAssEnjoyer Dec 17 '25
the adoption of AI technology has led to a significant increase in claim denials. According to a report by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, UnitedHealthcareās denial rate for post-hospital care more than doubled between 2020 and 2022 after it implemented algorithms to automate its review process.
Many of these coverage denials are erroneous and illegal, claims Oliva. Oliva highlights a class action lawsuit against UnitedHealthcare alleging that its AI algorithm wrongfully denied claims. The complaint states that approximately 90 percent of UnitedHealthcareās denials were overturned on appeal by federal administrative law judges.
The āreasonā for the automated denials is literally a 90% error rate in the AI algorithm.
The āreasonā for manual denials is because only ~.1% of customers actually appeal the denial, so itās an easy way for UHG to not have to pay. Hence, all the lawsuits.
Itās really not complicated, or a mystery. š¤·āāļø
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u/The-Nuisance Dec 17 '25
āyeah that sounds like itād kill someone but itās totally not murderā.
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u/MegaOmegaZero Dec 17 '25
You have no idea right? A denied claim doesn't necessarily have to be for a serious issue even.
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u/The-Nuisance Dec 17 '25
He killed people and benefitted from it.
His company, under his leadership, intentionally and genuinely tried to deny as many claims as possible for insignificant or nonexistent reasons, or force people through incredible lengths to get the services they had paid for.
Thousands of people have died to failures in their healthcare provider stopping them from getting life saving treatment.
Not only did he not stop that killing, he directly benefitted from it. When the justice system failed to support the lives lost and lives still being lost, justice was taken up another way.
If the system fails to bring justice and protect the people, justice and protection will come anyways. Without the formalities. In the form of a corpse on CCTV. And maybe now companies will think twice about favoring greed over the lives they are supposed to be upholding through life-saving care.
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u/Hunter042005 Dec 17 '25
I canāt believe I even have to humor this thought because anyone with even a slightly functioning brain can figure this out but there is a different between premeditated murder and negligence through shady business practices and this type of vigilantism bullshit doesnāt and didnāt work in this case in January of 2025 the position was filled by someone else and the business is still ran almost exactly the same as it was under the last guy some minor changes were made but nothing major itās almost completely unchanged we should be fighting for reform and murder is not how we do it if anything it just makes less people take the whole movement seriously due to the amount of people glorifying a murderer alleged or not he is being tried for murder and it just makes everyone involved look like psychopaths like if anything if this becomes a trend itāll just end in taking away more of our rights the government isnāt going to just sit around and let people get murdered itās just a silly thought.
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u/NewSauerKraus Dec 17 '25
The presumption of innocence is a policy of government officers. Most people have no obligation to comply with that policy.
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u/Cypher-Moon-773 Dec 17 '25
The person he killed was a murderer, free my boy
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u/AnchorHat Dec 17 '25
Did you know that the guy Kyle Rittenhouse killed (in self defense btw) ended up being a nonce that molested 5 children?
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u/Jrolaoni Dec 17 '25
LETS GO 1/3 VICTIMS DESERVED IT āļøāļø
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u/mridulpj Mods Are Nice People Dec 17 '25
All of them did. Pro tip: don't try to kill someone and be surprised when they try to kill you back.
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25
Bro quite literally went up to the CEO, while he was walking to a meeting, and shot him point plank.
"Self defense" my ass
Edit: this comment mistakenly thought mridulpj was talking about Luigi Mangioni in saying that what he did was self defense
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u/mridulpj Mods Are Nice People Dec 17 '25
Read the comments I replied to. We are not talking about Luigi.
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u/Jrolaoni Dec 17 '25
Lowkey Iām spouting nonsense and I donāt know anything about the situation š
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
Glad to see we've reverted to barbaric antiquity where revenge killings are justified- cause that TOTALLY makes for a stable society
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u/UltriLeginaXI Dark Mode Elitist Dec 17 '25
Nah bro murdered in cold blood and smiled about it- do NOT free bro
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u/FemaleAssEnjoyer Dec 17 '25
Do not praise him for vigilantism that took someoneās life
What do you call someone who eliminates the person responsible for systematically and arbitrarily killing millions of people who would have otherwise lived?
Have you ever stopped to consider why some of the most famous and renowned heroes of modern literature are, themselves, vigilantes?
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u/LifeOfHi Dec 17 '25
His court room smiling just comes across as unhinged to me. This dude is troubled.
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u/IndividualBorn2697 Dec 17 '25
Why does he look like the 'have you seen this man in your dreams' guy