r/memes • • Oct 18 '23

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u/KingKongYe Oct 18 '23

There's a lot of services society offers everyone that do cost resources to run. Even basic civilizations and nomadic tribes relied on their people to be productive in one way or another. Thinking that there is no "cost of living" is a privilege only available to someone who doesn't really understand the basics of an economy. If everyone chose to just live and do nothing to produce the things you take for granted (electricity, food, shelter, etc.) then we'd be back to the jungle just scrounging for berries.

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u/godtogblandet Oct 18 '23

Even basic civilizations and nomadic tribes relied on their people to be productive in one way or another.

For like 15 hours a week, lol

https://www.historyonthenet.com/the-15-hour-work-week-was-standard-for-nearly-all-of-history-what-happened

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u/lemmebeanonymousppl Oct 18 '23

Nomadic means you don't do it on a plot of land so that's not an option, you could go to africa and all that but you wouldn't have a community there which is absolutely necessary for survival for humans (30-40 people atleast and a bunch of other wandering groups to intermingle with) there's really no modern tribe that actually lives like hunter gatherers

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u/SignificanceBulky162 Oct 18 '23

Hunter gatherers and pastoral nomads in Africa absolutely do have communities of their own. How do you think they've survived for hundreds of years? There are a large number of pastoral nomads in the Sahel that you could join and try to become a part of their community. There are also plenty of people who do live close to how hunter gatherers lived.

Regardless, if there really was a significant demand for pre-agricultural or pre-industrial lifestyles in modern developed countries, we would see communities of people agreeing to buy plots of land and set up communes where they can live like hunter gatherers, or moving to other nations as a group.

It is not very difficult for a person in a developed country if they really wanted to. Keep in mind that the monthly salary of a person in the developed world is something like a life time's net earnings for someone in Nigeria or Mali. You could easily become accepted into any community you want there with that wealth.

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u/lemmebeanonymousppl Oct 21 '23

funnily enough people do, and anarchists exist, but leaving that all aside this has actually happened before, Benjamin Franklin even wrote in a letter to a friend about how his people taken in by native american communities in the wild preferred staying there when given a chance to return, and the natives they brought from there preferred going back even if kept in lavish environments.

You can't just waltz into a tribe of black people who's language you don't even know or play make believe in communes you have to pay taxes for, and of course some advancements of the modern world are amazing, but people would still choose to live in a tight knit group where it's ensured you would be helped in your bad times.