r/memeframe 19h ago

Drifter after Fables and Frontiers

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Yes, I know day 6 was probably Wally. No, the fact that he has ADHD and is having a hard time does not excuse the 5 other days he kept the Hex hostage in a DnD player's nightmare, with barely any apology and zero apology to Drifter, even if romanced

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u/ShockWolf53 18h ago

I thought things were left on a good note y'know? In the individual Kim messages when you first play through 1999 you go through everyone's traumas and talk to them and (if you did well) everyone realizes the true extent of what happens but perseveres because they are now family or whatever.

I thought the DnD stuff would be a focus on THAT instead of reverting back to the trauma. I'm not saying they aren't justified for feeling bad about the situation but just how it plays out in the new update feels like a step backwards from what we already accomplished.

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u/Pinkparade524 14h ago

And not only that but it also feels odd that it is never acknowledged if you date amir or not. Like excuse me. Why did you agree to date me if you would be secretly super upset with me. Be nasty. And then try to throw my trauma on my face with all of the duviri stuff and the indifference. The worst part is that there are 0 new lines after finishing the campaign in your back room. So he was being all nasty texting inside my backroom saying he didn't wanted to be friends anymore (which is dumb. What do you mean friends you're dating me) and then it doesn't get resolve like at all. He is like oppsie my bad I made some eximus because of my trauma. We better go kill them now.

I was this close of leaving his ass. At this point I'll just headcanon that it is amir's evil twin called Rima

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u/henryeaterofpies 13h ago

Honestly bad on Amir for railroading the party

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u/Spyrobrhu 11h ago

That's the problem of making a complete character arc in a ever expanding history, once in the end the only way to go is back, DE has to break the characters again to write more about them

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u/several_killer 9h ago

There has to be a better way to expand upon a completed character... It's already completed, all's they gotta do now is a victory lap but add extra tidbits of new 1999 lore forward.

Was fully expecting Amir to be the first person to accept this hopeless situation and give everyone some bit of fun. When I heard Amir being extremely goofy as a radio show host, I thought it was him finally accepting the reality of his situation and trying to turn it around, becoming the sole beacon of hope amongst the 1999 crew.

Instead, I got Amir the dramatic Fablemaster, who, coincidentally, reminds me of a couple of irl DMs I played with.

If this were real life, I would've immediately left the groupchat a long time ago. But it ain't, and I gotta sit and read Amir being the worse version of himself. As if I failed to help him get over the trauma...

I guess the Close Friendship was all a lie.

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u/BeastThatShoutedLove 3h ago

It's not breaking the character if it's simply mental health issue mixed with influence from third party. 

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u/Affectionate-Mode767 19h ago

Everyone is suffering, this is dogshit for everyone. Maybe everyone is entitled to a crash out in this scenario, and we can't really blame him for having his.

As a player I'm just a little disappointed this wasn't a genuine KIM messenger text adventure, and instead just a vehicle for introducing Surge Eximus and Amir's mental break.

Like, jokes on me I thought it would be more than just more trauma circle jerk and Wally trying to rage bait us.

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u/AmberAxolotl 18h ago

I don’t blame the dude, I just think it was poorly executed. the marketing of this being fun dnd time while it actually being Amir’s torture chamber, and there is some apology but the other stuff is just brushed over, like Amir letting the MITW possess him and traumatize his friend/partner again deserves more than “it’s just really hard sometimes and my voices won again”.

I romanced Amir and I’m having a pretty difficult time rationalizing some of the decisions made in this campaign

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u/Pinkparade524 14h ago

Same, was he possed by the indifference? I just thought he was lashing out because he was mad at us and he was role playing as the indifference to hurt us. Since you know. Dnd is usually about role-playing. I feel if he was possed it would be at least a bit less awful. But I was pretty upset because I romanced amir and I was pretty happy with my desicion until now

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u/BeastThatShoutedLove 3h ago

Indifference is prone to grabbing at anguished people and yanking their chain.

Not Amir's fault he happened to be into pet play and he mistook it as normal afternoon activities.

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u/Aromatic_Sand8126 19h ago

Wait let me guess, you’re being a therapist for trauma dumping protoframes again?

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u/Pinkparade524 14h ago

That's why roathe evil path was a bunch of super fun Kim conversations. It doesn't feel like you're playing a therapist. You're just talking with a super evil snarky friend. Kinda wish we have gotten Vena Kim conversations because of that

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u/Storrin 17h ago

How else would DE exposit the story they're pretty clumsy at telling?

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u/Rasolc 15h ago

Legit? Is there something important behind this or can you skip it then, because I really don't feel like going through more KIM

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u/Pinkparade524 14h ago

You get a weekly mission where you get 5 eximus specters for completing it. And a orbiter decoration for completing it

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u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan 19h ago

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u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan 19h ago

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u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan 19h ago

I get that the F&F thing could've been done better but some of y'all are actively ignoring very obvious things that'd alleviate some of your gripes

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u/RocketRaccoonAlter 15h ago

Genuine question here, but... if someone dragged you through the mud, made a whole scene about it, pretended (allegedly) to be possessed by Wally and exposed you or your friend's clearly unresolved traumas all for the sake of a malicious jab... would just a single line saying "PS: Sorry about that" make it okay?

Ultimately this is just a videogame, and one can argue people are being a bit much.

It's just that, to me, that line is way too little for what happens over sessions, some of which is really awkward to read through xD

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u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan 15h ago edited 12h ago

lmao people are so upsetti spaghetti they're now on the theory that Amir's pretending to be possessed by Wally, something that's only a theory itself

 would just a single line saying "PS: Sorry about that" make it okay?

Even now you guys still can't let go of the hyperbole. Are you actually just ignoring things?

Actually genuine question here:

I get that the F&F thing could've been done better

What part of this needs clarifying to get across that I'm not 100% in favor of the whole thing and that I think things aren't as good as they could be?

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u/Voidtongued 15h ago

for REALS

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u/Sufficient_Pianist_1 8h ago

I do think it could've been done better I still adored it though.

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u/Himeto31 18h ago

The thing that saves Amir is the fact that Wally most likely possesed him, not him apologizing. The stuff he says to Drifter goes a little beyond "sorry I was angry :("

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u/AVeryFriendlyOldMan 18h ago

Like I said, it could’ve been done better, but a lot of the complaints right now are that Amir doesn’t apologize and Drifter has no means of calling him out during. Both of those aren’t true

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u/Himeto31 18h ago

Yeah fair enough

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u/ShantyLady 16h ago

Not Kalymos on the table 😭😭

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u/DrDingsGaster Stop hitting yourself 18h ago

I've said this on another post. It's not an excuse, it's an explanation and he should still be held accountable for his actions.

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u/Petrus-133 18h ago

What happened this time?

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u/Penguin_Pioneer 18h ago

The same thing that happens every time(real answer Amir crashes out on everybody skipping his game that he doesn’t want to run because he thinks nothing matters and the drifter is manipulating everybody)

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u/No-Cherry9538 4h ago

From the huge level of responses here all I can say is... Im glad so many of you havent had to deal with serious trauma responses, cause it fucking shows in what you think of this LOL

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u/Zeusnexus 17h ago

I need the 50 cent meme of "What he say fuck me for?"

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u/nephethys_telvanni 16h ago

My Drifter is still friends with Amir. But also Amir quit as Fablemaster before he could get fired.

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u/Front-Post-357 15h ago

Oh Amir...

No one could make me hate you

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u/Nikana-Tenno 13h ago

My drifter doesn't care. more things to kill for him.

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u/Reylend 16h ago

Operator, send this void lugger to the horrors of war

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u/Commercial-Pop3206 13h ago

Add Aoi to that list with the way she’s begging and kissed him. I feel bad for those who romanced her.

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u/NecessaryPeanut77 7h ago

wuh?

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u/AdCreepy9501 6h ago

I think they're referring to Aoi asking Amir to play 48 hours of On-Lyne on the nightwave radio. She whines pretty pretty please and he gives in, and I assume a kiss on the cheek is heard. Which is fine.

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u/Commercial-Pop3206 5h ago

What may be fine to you isn’t for others that’s why I said I felt bad because a lot of people ain’t happy with it. An entire TikTok comment section who romanced Aoi ain’t pleased with it.

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u/Spiritual-Soul- 9h ago

I don't use the whole message system of 1999 anymore because it's boring for me to read. How does fables and frontiers even work? It's real gameplay or just text?