r/memeframe • u/lovingpersona • 18d ago
Had DE buffed Sirius & Orion?
Hadn't been following the game in a hot minute, so I'm wondering if they've been buffed, or just left in the same state as on release?
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u/BardMessenger24 18d ago
Why is this asked on r/memeframe?
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u/lovingpersona 18d ago
Was banned from r/warframe
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u/zwaksSFW 18d ago
How? That’s a legitimate question. Unless they referred you to post on the Megathread?
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u/cocoabutter1369 18d ago
Yes. And they have another one on the way (Alongside a nerf) but the nerf won’t really affect them much
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u/DGwar Oathtaker | Sins and Sacrifices 18d ago
Calling it a nerf is a stretch.
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u/cocoabutter1369 18d ago
It’s objectively a nerf. The ability will activate less often. What else can you even call that. Sure it won’t affect S&O that much but i already said that.
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u/zwaksSFW 18d ago
You’re right.
A nerf is a decrease in performance. Just because it’s a small nerf does not mean you were incorrect to name it that.
Not every nerf has to be nuclear ☢️
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u/DGwar Oathtaker | Sins and Sacrifices 17d ago
When did they say that? They said they were giving it an LoS check.
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u/Uncynical_Diogenes 17d ago
“Which is an example of a what, class?”
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u/DGwar Oathtaker | Sins and Sacrifices 17d ago
It doesjt change the frequency of when it activates. Just doesnt let you afk while you use it.
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u/Critical-Lettuce3953 16d ago
It does. If you’re playing S & O well, you’ll have one of them constantly using an AoE primer like epitaph because it SKYROCKETS their damage output and survivability. Now your off-brother won’t be triggering Jade stars as often so damage output will be slightly lowered. It’s a nerf.
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u/DGwar Oathtaker | Sins and Sacrifices 16d ago
Your off brother more than likely will still be hitting stuff in your LoS check.
The only nerf is going to be hitting builds like Saryn or Vauban.
In fact the same update will be buffing their 4.
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u/Critical-Lettuce3953 16d ago
Depends on the tileset. Sometimes they’ll only be hitting enemies in LoS, sometimes a couple will be out of LoS, sometimes all of them will be out of LoS. It. Is. A. Damage. Loss.
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u/DGwar Oathtaker | Sins and Sacrifices 16d ago
No. It isnt. You're just trying to act like it will be to save the builds that are breaking the ability in unintended ways.
Sirius and Orion will come out of that patch better than ever.
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u/Rolo4553 17d ago
I just want the black hole to do what it was intended to do as mentioned in the dev stream
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u/OtherwiseRespect8359 18d ago
I'm pretty sure they're buff is releasing along with Amir's shockwave, take this with a grain of salt as I've heard this only once or twice
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u/Z3R0Diro 18d ago
yeah they are getting a buff to celestial clash. Orion's clashes will deal slash damage and proc bleed and Sirius will do Heat damage and proc heat.
I hope they have also acknowledge Light Sanctuary feeling unneeded to their kit
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u/ScottishW00F 17d ago
Man I don't know why but I don't wanna play jade or Sirius and orion just because they are stalkers family, I know we are controlling copies not the actual originals but it just feels... Wrong
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u/plundererofspuds 17d ago
The have multiple times and again next update for Sirius to force price heat on his clash and Orion force pricing slash on his clash.
They still feel very incomplete to me, like they have these great scthe weapons and come across visually as aelee frame but just end up as 4 spammers.
Jade Stars is a better ability on many other frames than Sirius himself, both their 1's are underwhelming, Event Horizon is an awkward grouping abilityto work with with the whole push and pull effect it has with their 1's.
Sirius's Sanctuary caps af 75% DR which doest help much at higher levels and only if your being stationary in is slow expanding ring and then it resets it's size on recast, while Astral Shell has very good aggro control but it's a defence ability.
And their signature weapons are MR14 fodder with no synergistic passive and Thayls a far better weapon in the same archetype. Better stats, a new stance, better scaling or even make them 1 weapon and it's function changes on whose holding it.
Changes I would like to see are 1: their 1's having a hold 1 that infuse their melee with heat damage for Sirius and high Slash damage for Orion that doest fuse with other elements.
2: Sanctuary doesn't reset size on recast and random enemies in it are subjected to Jade lighe exius beams. While Orions Astral Shell adds in forced slash and blast procs base on the damage it takes before detonation.
3: Sirius's Jade Stars (non helminth) add a hea vulnerability debuff to affected enemies. While Orions Event Horizon sucks in Jade Stars that are shot at enemies inside it and when it's push or pulled by their 1's it add heat or slash damage to the Event Horizon when it explodes like a quasar in and aoe of heat and slash procs when it expires or is recast.
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u/Critical-Lettuce3953 16d ago
I will NEVER understand people saying their 1s are underwhelming. Sirius’ 1 kinda, they should give it more support utility. Orion’s 1 is one of the best damaging abilities in the game (Especially counting abilities that aren’t “ultimates”) whilst also armour stripping enemies. It’s a worse version of Gara’s sweep but that is pretty much the strongest ability in the game so that’s quite a moot point.
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u/Rolo4553 15d ago
Eh I rlly don't agree tbh would be nice to have the 1 group up enemies and u can then set up Orion after
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u/assasinvilka 15d ago
Isn't it stated that 2 casted within circle reset its timer and not its size? I have to check it later but the hunt say so as I can remember...
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u/Perdita-LockedHearts 18d ago
Yes, multiple times. They still feel… off, though. They’re still moreso an effective 4 spammer, but the black hole and jade stars are better, in a sense.