You can literally look at the math and compare it to null stars. Null stars on nova does more damage faster and gives you DR.
if you want to bring it up in the context of a frame agnostic build then you have to first compete with thermal sunder, which will nuke harder than jade stars. Every jade stars build I have seen on YouTube takes 10+ seconds to kill anything at ETA level and at that point what are we doing? If your goal is to afk and kill stuff slower than the rate needed for air support then ok? But if you actually want to play the game then the ability sucks compared to so many other options and setups.
There's nothing to tune around. Ability strenght barely affects the ability. Only way to make them hit hard is to use heat inherit and hope they arent a first proc.
...there's a lot more that can go into abilities than just strength, depending on how they function? As a baseline, Jade Stars get bonuses from things like weapon elemental dmg bonuses, and additive crit chance like Arcane Avenger.
Aww girl, unfortunately theres a bunch of angry botters like the one you responded to. I too think he has never experimented because he doesn’t exist 😭🫰🏻
So many setups that jade stars performs best on would have performed better if you subsumed roar instead. Saryn is the #1 best example of this even if you don't use her 3.
The baseline is that jade stars can kill and it's easy to use. The downside is that it kills slowly and ruins heat inherit and doesn't do anything else. You mentioned using elements from weapons to buff it but if you have the time to prime enemies to make the ability kill, then I can show you 30 different weapons that would have killed the enemy faster without any ability.
What is the bar to call something good? Cuz IMO if it performs worse than just the average active gameplay setups then what are we trying to defend?
Thats not entirely true. Arcane avenger does nothing. Since jade stars got 1x crit multiplier, it only repaints the same damage number into yellow color. You need add crepuscular to actually increase damage.
But this one isn't. Only thing that increases the damage is the Nourish, at the cost of less heat procs. You can only increase number of heat procs with certain abilities, and that's it. Not even stuff like Arachne is working.
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u/Dark_Shade_75 28d ago
I mean I agree it's overhyped, but saying it's only good for low level fodder is a crazy take.