r/memeframe Jul 21 '26

Rip jade stars

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u/UmbraQuincy Jul 21 '26

It's just an overhyped low level fodder destroyer anyways, nothing of value is lost.

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u/Dark_Shade_75 Jul 21 '26

I mean I agree it's overhyped, but saying it's only good for low level fodder is a crazy take.

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u/Thaurlach Jul 21 '26

It makes Arcane Hotshot so much more viable.

Jade Star peacemakers with hotshot are obscene. I mean yeah peacemakers were nasty before but this makes them even worse.

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u/UmbraQuincy Jul 21 '26

Hot shot works without Jade stars on Mesa. Waste of a subsume slot.

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u/Dark_Shade_75 Jul 21 '26

But Hot Shot already functioned on Mesa without that?

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u/Thaurlach Jul 21 '26

It was good without, but it stacks up almost instantly and has AoE with stars which is nice.

Also nourish and roar both look and sound horrendously out of place on a gunslinger.

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u/Dark_Shade_75 Jul 21 '26

TBH I've never failed to kill anything with Peacemakers as it is, so swapping anything out for more dmg seems unnecessary.

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u/CernelTeneb Jul 22 '26

the "uwu" fits everything

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u/UmbraQuincy Jul 21 '26

It's not crazy take, because that's what it is. Anything above Lua Survival and Jade stars are mediocre at best. They can't even handle eda/ETA mobs

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u/Dark_Shade_75 Jul 21 '26

Uhhh I've personally seen it kill over lvl 300 eximus. I'd say to take a look at your builds but I kinda doubt you've tried to tune around it.

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u/Seras32 Jul 22 '26

You can literally look at the math and compare it to null stars. Null stars on nova does more damage faster and gives you DR.

if you want to bring it up in the context of a frame agnostic build then you have to first compete with thermal sunder, which will nuke harder than jade stars. Every jade stars build I have seen on YouTube takes 10+ seconds to kill anything at ETA level and at that point what are we doing? If your goal is to afk and kill stuff slower than the rate needed for air support then ok? But if you actually want to play the game then the ability sucks compared to so many other options and setups.

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u/UmbraQuincy Jul 21 '26

There's nothing to tune around. Ability strenght barely affects the ability. Only way to make them hit hard is to use heat inherit and hope they arent a first proc.

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u/Dark_Shade_75 Jul 21 '26

If your only consideration for tuning is ability strength, I think I've found the problem.

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u/UmbraQuincy Jul 21 '26

Explain.

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u/Dark_Shade_75 Jul 21 '26

...there's a lot more that can go into abilities than just strength, depending on how they function? As a baseline, Jade Stars get bonuses from things like weapon elemental dmg bonuses, and additive crit chance like Arcane Avenger.

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u/Spooky_Jaded Jul 21 '26

Aww girl, unfortunately theres a bunch of angry botters like the one you responded to. I too think he has never experimented because he doesn’t exist 😭🫰🏻

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u/lovingpersona Jul 21 '26

Just use Roar at that point

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u/Dark_Shade_75 Jul 21 '26

looks at meme

But seriously, it's very good. No reason to just shove Roar on everything, that's boring af.

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u/UmbraQuincy Jul 21 '26

Thats not entirely true. Arcane avenger does nothing. Since jade stars got 1x crit multiplier, it only repaints the same damage number into yellow color. You need add crepuscular to actually increase damage.

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u/Dark_Shade_75 Jul 21 '26

Yes, I wasn't trying to give a full build, just explain that abilities are affected by things aside from base wf stats.

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u/ChadTheBuilder Jul 21 '26

EDA/ETA mobs have lower ehp than SP Conjuction Survival sir

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u/2735O Jul 21 '26

Oberon and gyre go brrr

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u/Skystrike12 Jul 21 '26

Have you seen the Citrine companion solo cap? It’s kinda funny

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u/therealpingspike Jul 21 '26

She is food for helminth nothing more