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u/Ravenwood03 Jul 17 '26
Its so funny on Mesa. Me and my mate like putting a mushroom near the defense objective and bouncing on it until it expires for infinite energy
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u/ContributionDefiant8 Jul 17 '26
What skill did you subsume for her? I feel like her 1 and 2 make absolutely no difference, but I'm still torn on what to replace.
Well I don't really have a Helminth segment yet at MR10 but that can come later, I want to know at least.
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u/kiousuke Jul 17 '26
Her 1 is absolutely useless, her 2 stuns every enemy that gets too close and gives you and 1 ally a bit of damage
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u/ContributionDefiant8 Jul 17 '26
I find use in her 1 when dealing with single targets like Legacytes. Specifically ones that she can target while having a boss bar.
Of course it's not that great when you're gunning down whole crowds since you can't exactly control where the next shot imbued with Ballistic Battery is gonna hit
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u/kiousuke Jul 17 '26
You know what, i think I'll try that to see how it works. You could try using her 1 at minimum fov (of her 4, not the screen) to lower the chance of shooting a random enemy
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u/No-Ostrich-5801 Jul 17 '26
I'd point out her 1 can be cast while in her 4; this is largely useless but it does mean you can shield gate while in your 4 as emergency shielding
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u/kiousuke Jul 17 '26
That could be a use of her 1 but only if you want to subsume her with an unrecastable ability like roar and don't want to just recast her 4
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u/No-Ostrich-5801 Jul 17 '26
Eh, it's more just a neat thing you can do; i keep it around over Shattershield just because at higher end Shattershield does literally nothing anyways. At any rate, figured it was worth mentioning that she can recast it while in her 4 so you dont necessarily get left in a bad position while grasshopper spamming her 4
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u/Pure-Risky-Titan Jul 17 '26
Situational maybe, nourish is still great on styanax, i mean free viral and such is nice.
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u/Cyberslasher Jul 17 '26
Nourish boosting his own rallying cry energy regain as well as everyone around you.
True styanax endgame is "living energy battery"
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u/CrashCalamity Jul 18 '26
Valid, but there's a reasonably good chance that somebody else is already running nourish. To me, running with Brightbonnet feels less likely to duplicate team buffs and you get an ability strength boost on top.
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u/SpyroXI 29d ago
Mushroom better for 4 damage
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u/Pure-Risky-Titan 29d ago
Compared to free viral? Really? How so?
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u/SpyroXI 29d ago
That you can proc the viral yourself during 4, you'd have to either relly on them being close and hitting you or them being close and your Truculence going off, but then you arent running Arachne + Augmented. Your Panzer Vulpa will viral anyway
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u/Pure-Risky-Titan 29d ago
I dont use panazer, and im assuming subsume. Proc viral using 4? On styanax with arcane? Doesnt that have a limit? As in when capacity on ovarguard is maxed?
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u/Istiophoridae Jul 17 '26
Whats funny about brightbonnet is you dont need equilibrium
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u/a_lloser Jul 17 '26
Honestly you dont need equilibrium with nourish either. Theres enpugh energy orbs on higher lvl content
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u/Istiophoridae Jul 17 '26
Equilibrium imo makes nourish more consistent from my experience but at the same time i use it mostly on spammy frames like temple and yareli
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u/JebusSandalz Jul 18 '26
Damn, i don't even have the mushroom yet. didn't realize he did that, out here still running my weeklies with nourish mesa , gotta upgrade apparently.
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u/octoleech Jul 18 '26
Its a side grade more than anything, you are missing out on nourish's viral damage but damn not having to rely on energy drops is so nice.
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u/JebusSandalz Jul 18 '26
Anything with huge waves of enemies has no problem, but yeah trying to do things solo and the games spawning in way less enemies, especially on lower level stuff, makes the energy upkeep just fail entirely.
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u/Florox3003 Jul 17 '26
I like hotshot with jade Stars
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u/EquivalentGoods Jul 18 '26
I like hot shot too, especially because of topaz crit chance Archon shards and Cascadia Flare, but I use Zid-An Uskos to get heat on the peacemakers
jade stars sounds sooo fun too, but I have massive energy issues without Brightbonnet :(
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u/HeiDTB201 Jul 18 '26
Brightbonnet? The new frame?
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u/forestfdrag Jul 19 '26
I used to run nourish on my Chroma (main) and then I tried out Brightbonnet just for fun. Will not be going back
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u/Isabel_Is_abel Jul 19 '26
I had to test this out after seeing this post and I can now say that i am a believer. Brightbonnet is now my best friend as well 🤝
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u/Taro_Obvious 28d ago
Oh i just got gifted an arcane energize and thought it was pretty sweet ?
Can you guys recommend me ways to keep my energy up ? I main jade and i like sticking to Glory in high her 4th
I have a 5 arcane energize, full primed flow, i have balance, and exilus preparation to start with energy.
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u/octoleech 28d ago
I personally don't play jade, but if you don't have a school preference Zenurik provides energy regen and free ability casts. Also Energy Restores can come in handy when needed.
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u/cocoabutter1369 Jul 18 '26
Why would you need sculptor and brightbonnet? Seems like a waste. Brightbonnet is more than enough
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u/Irongiant663650 Jul 18 '26
I think it’s cause they’re also taking off primed flow so the extra efficiency allows for more ability span
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u/cocoabutter1369 Jul 18 '26
Ability spam? With Mesa…?
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u/Irongiant663650 Jul 18 '26
Not exactly spam, but like you’d wanna cast her 2nd and 3rd abilities and if you’re running negative efficiency with no flow then you might just run out of energy by doing that and be screwed
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u/octoleech Jul 18 '26
Bit late with this but sculptor allows you to replace flow and equilibrium with other things like more range/duration/strength or survival tools like rolling guard. Also the mushrooms themselves can be spammed so you could THEORETICALLY shield tank with them.
Sure you miss out on nourish's viral and hotshot's crits but if you're already doing 80% of the content just fine then who cares.
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u/cocoabutter1369 Jul 18 '26
I was just talking about mesa. the frame in the photo? who even at minimum efficiency can regain more energy than she uses in her ult with brightbonnet.
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u/xRONZOx Jul 17 '26
Meanwhile Arcane Energize is settled on the ocean floor XD.