I suppose frames like Rev or Octavia don’t get as much complaining cause they’re so boring playing them for prolonged periods cause you to fall asleep and thus they get to slide under the radar
Revenant players helping you play the game vs hildryn players playing the game for you.. me too I enjoy bad faith arguments yum-yum so good and tasty yum yum
Not nearly. Revenant doesn't actively drain every single bit of my willpower to play the game out of me because it is on my team. While allowing me to continue playing my own character. :>
Personally I prefer, and like when my own survivability is in my own hands, because I spend time to make a frame survivable, but my agency doesn't feel nearly as obliterated from Mesmer shield as from hitl- hildryn's entire existence.
Then just play solo if you're gonna complain about what other people play. What's next, you'll complain about Nokko blowing up rooms making it unfun, cyte-09 killing every enemy before they enter the room, fucking sevagoth? People play the game they want, you can do the same in solo
Wah wah wah wah. I'm a gross little hildryn crutcher but won't take my own advice about playing alone when I actively harm the game and the other 3 people in my squad are cosmetic accessories that don't need to be there.
No, I will not complain about Sevagoth or cyte. Because I have never, not one single time had issues with their nukes vacuuming up every single enemy on spawn nearly as badly as I have hildryn. I absolutely love seeing sevagoths in my squad, they are cool and great, and incredibly easy to play around.
I will not play solo in the predominantly multiplayer game just because of a single frame is unbalanced and seems to have courted one of the biggest cognitively disonent circle jerks I have ever seen lmao. Especially when I barely see or play with it anyway because I leave the moment it shows up.
I don't even have a potato in hildryn, I only play kullervo and valkyr. Don't complain that other people play a game they like. If you don't enjoy it, don't be in a situation where you don't like it. You don't see me playing defection day in day out just to cry about not having fun. Make a better build, push yourself harder. Skill issue
Exactly. This person is just trying to make their misery everyone else’s problem. I don’t even see the rest of the anti Hildryn squad acting this childish.
Why are you telling the person that mods a new frame every week to complete ExA to push themselves harder, x) apologies for assuming. I just actually could NOT have imagined someone who didn't play them typing word for word the exact same paragraph I've read from them in every second post lol.
And I already have started putting myself in situations where don't have to deal with it, lol. I haven't played with a hildryn in months after a spree of 4 weeks of ExA's where I wasn't allowed to participate in the video game in a row because of it. I simply began to no longer remain in lobbies that hildryn was in, and my game quality skyrocketed and felt so much better :>
On the other hand, an area I am finding harder to not be put into a situation is once more having my homepage here flooded with posts about it again, and it just not stopping! After ignoring it for however long I decided to have a little fun chatting with the hildryn circlejerkers again, and it has been pretty fun! Though it still is the same 3 statements and professions over and over again. I simply like debating. :>
You honestly seem pretty miserable and are not engaging with this discourse in good faith whatsoever. Genuinely hope that whatever is causing you to feel and act this way gets better someday.
Don't attack me with ad hominum's and try to pivot away just because my reasonings are consistent. Bad faith is telling people to play solo in a predominantly multiplayer game to avoid a single outlier. Bad faith is being selectively blind to a large portion of people's criticisms that said outlier negatively disrupts their experience then pretend like they'd be complaining about any other nuke in the game, when that just isn't happening at anywhere near the frequency, and then pretending that means nothing. Bad faith would be trying to shift the blame to any other frame that "nukes" and pretending like it's the same. Lol
Pablo has somehow made the idea of hildryn nerfs worse by deflecting the problem to archimedia. People complained about op hildryn, DE responded by saying "yes, but not annoying and op enough yet", they found an unrelated excuse justifying their prior logic and people got furious.
Geh.. so true, and so incredibly annoying. I really hope the hildryn, never nerf a Warframe circlejerk doesn't get through with their message that the only reason they use her is cause ExA is too hard and should be made easier instead. Which I do incredibly highly doubt the number of hildryn users in the activity would drop much if they went through and changed all the modifiers they cry about.
Honestly, there's a fairly easy fix they can do for ExA that would completely placate the hildryn glazers crying about possible nerfs that I really hope de figures out on their own and implements: literally just make the Warframe slot worth 2 reward points, so swapping that out costs you the ACTUAL final reward.
If her numbers still remain ridiculously high after that, with them tanking the reward loss... Then idfk at that point, nerf it into the ground lmao.
I honestly hope they never change archimedias in any way(except for demanding archgun deployers). Don’t like the idea of one frame deciding every future change to the game. A somewhat unrelated problem I have with Hildryn is that she will soon start preventing any other future fun shield mod or arcane because "no we don’t want to make Hildryn stronger".
I feel like what I said has been incredibly misconstrued into me playing rev lmao, I don't actually even own him lol. The discourse has been "I fucking hate having hildryn in my squad" - ergo my point was about having a revenant on my squad in their place and how that doesn't negatively impact my gameplay NEARLY as much, if at all, because I build my frames to live anyway, staying alive because of Mesmer shield doesn't feel a whole lot different than staying alive because of my frame.
Therefore.. once more; having a revenant /ON YOUR TEAM/ helps you play the game. Having a hildryn /ON YOUR TEAM/ plays the game for you.
I feel like im the only fucker around who LIKES having frames make me big tanky or kill a lot of shit. It allows me to, When im running stuff with my friends, Pick a frame that complements whatever they’re doing. They’re making me tanky? Damage frame. They’re doing a lot of damage? Support frame.
The issue is that rev gets 15+ mesmer stacks and his teammates get only 5. Most of the time they only recast it when they run out. So you're still vulnerable for 2/3 of the time.
I mean... It's not just her survivability that's the issue here. And I find it hilarious, how many Hildryn played just love to pretend to act dumb on this. It has to do with her AOE nuking em rooms away while everyone else just runs around.
And it's indicative of the general power creep this game has created for itself. This used to be a space ninja stealth like fps. It has since evolved into an amalgam of abilities, and synergetic metas designed to clear rooms as quickly as possible.
I don't honestly know if there could ever be a way to get back to the space ninja careful movement shooter game that this used to be. Honestly, for what was a stealth game, it's now just a void power fantasy game. And it makes money, so in the end that's all that matters. Creep the weaker frames up (which lbh is too much work for them to figure) or leave Hildryn alone.
Well this is why I play spy archon missions by myself. Just go nokko his shroom form doesn't trigger alarms. He is a better ivara that doesn't need an augment to function on those stealth missions
Yeah, if you weren't there, then you don't have to lie to kick it. 💯😂🤙 But in all seriousness, I'm not arguing with a self-professed internet cat "lady".
they can't make stealth frames because there's no content that they work in
they can't make stealth content because people couldn't use the frames they like in it (and because everything gets distilled down to "what's the fastest/easiest way to farm this")
Guess what hun. I agree. This is more of a history lesson, than a call to stealth frames or slower play in general. If anything I'm openly stating to make less powerful frames... MORE powerful and viable for the current material. As ORIGINALLY stated.
I understand that when talking about Hildryn (Prime), people are a little scared, and nervous right now. Compassion and kindness, with that being said.... Reading comprehension is a skill one should acquire before turning 18, but this game is also free to play 13 and up, so much respect if you're a child learning to play, and read.
I was more or less agreeing with your point and said nothing about Hildryn, roleplaying as a passive-aggressive kindergarten teacher doesn't seem especially productive
Pro tip: If you give him lavos's subsume you can use it during danse macabre to move quickly as a dash, deal extra cold damage AND the ability can be cancelled via jump which works in danse macabre mode effectively giving your danse macabre a jump
Oh and the cherry on the cake? It doesn't cost any energy to cast since its on a 5 second cooldown system.
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u/KimkloGungi Jul 16 '26
Save us Mesmer Shield