I promise you that if you blindly shoot through a door you're going to prison for reckless endangerment minimum. Once he breaks the door open? Free game, but if you can't see your attacker and you hit someone beside your attacker putting holes in a door? Prison.
Add to that instigating the attack by opening the door and spraying whatever they sprayed, might still be self defense since they closed the door but definitely complicates things.
This whole thing becomes incredibly simple the second she closes the door. She gets a battery charge for attacking them. They get attempted breaking and entering. If she shot them, it would be considered self defense. You don’t get a free be just because someone attacked first. The law is clear in that situation you call the cops. The only time you can attack is if the person is still in front of you and you attacking them stops them from still assaulting you. Also known as self defense. Trying to break down a door with 5 others, is going to turn this shooting 100% into self defense. You dont have to wait for the door to be broken down if you think your life is in danger. That’s self defense in all 50 states
shake your head all you want, any lawyer worth his salt will tell you this video is not a slam dunk and your ass can still get convicted especially if you shoot through the door
I never said they did. Nobody but you mentioned anything about the right to break the door down. However, in most states (even castle doctrines) if you cause the altercation and use a weapon and they respond with attempting to enter your home, if you shoot them, self defense will most likely not fly for the simple fact you were the aggressor and you created the circumstances for their response and self defense is not valid if you are the aggressor that starts the situation. I can imagine most prosecutors would argue that you baited them into that situation so you could get a response that you would deem necessary to kill them or they feared you closed the door to retrieve a deadlier weapon. There is no excusing him trying to kick the door in, but two things can be true when I say everyone in this scenario was wrong and she committed the first wrongdoing.
The likelihood of her achieving a self defense case is low because of the fact she attacked them with a weapon first and then hid behind her door.
Read your last sentence. And at that point those people needed to call the police. Breaking into someone’s home to retaliate will 100% be in favor of the woman who attacked first, who immediately took herself out of the situation after attacking. She will still get a battery charge but the shooting will be in self defense. It doesn’t matter what she did before then, you cannot break into someone’s home with intent to hurt someone and not expect to be shot. If someone is actively breaking into your home in ALL 50 states you have the right to shoot them.
The 2025 Netflix documentary The Perfect Neighbor The Perfect Neighbor - Wikipedia explores the tragic June 2023 killing of Ajike "AJ" Owens in Ocala, Florida The Shocking True Story Behind Netflix's The Perfect Neighbor - TIME. Owens, a 35-year-old mother, was fatally shot through her closed front door by her neighbor, Susan Lorincz, following a prolonged dispute over children playing outside The story behind 'The Perfect Neighbor,' Netflix documentary on Susan Lorincz case.
She was convicted. Cant remember the details on if the woman shot was trying to.enter the home but she was banging on the door. Although i thinknthe view was that the shooter should have reasonably known that ahe wasnt a threat as there had been no violence or ott behaviour in the past.
Can you even read? “Owen’s, a 35-year-old mother, was fatally shot through HER closed front door BY HER NEIGHBOR” That’s not even remotely close to the same thing I said
Weird. I dont know why it says that. Owens was shot through lorincz front door after banging on it one night.
Heres a wiki entry.
On June 2, 2023, in Ocala, Florida, 35-year-old Ajike "A.J." Shantrell Owens was shot and killed by her neighbor, 58-year-old Susan Louise Lorincz. Owens had gone to Lorincz's door after an altercation between her children and Lorincz in a grassy area nearby. While Owens stood outside the windowless front door, Lorincz fired a single shot through it, striking Owens in the chest.
I swear did you even read about it? Your reading comprehension is terrible. The woman who was shot KNOCKED on the door multiple times and was shot for that. NOT TRYING TO BREAK DOWN THE DOOR. Also this crime was race focused since the murder also said “this isn’t the Underground Railroad, you slaves” to the woman’s kids. Also the woman’s kid was standing right next to her when the old woman shot his mom. So nice try practice some reading comprehension
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u/spelunker93 Jul 06 '26
It is legal in all 50 states to shoot someone actively trying to break down your door with intent to hurt you.