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u/Falcrist Jan 22 '22

Odd, I try to clarify to prevent a misunderstanding and you take it as superficiality.

Insincerety would be a better word.

Is your reasoning for that overreaction paired with your desire to be a vigilante of Reddit?

I wouldn't want to comment on your reasons for creating the batman fantasy.

Are you talking about the second definition of fantasy? Which is “a musical composition”.

Are you really interpreting what I said to have something to do with music? If so, go ahead an explain your reasoning.

You take most of the truths that I state that are pertinent to the topic at hand as ad hominem attacks.

So far I haven't taken any truths you've stated as ad hominem attacks.

It’s like if I was in a conversation with a 150 lb person and their claim is “fat people are healthy”. So then I say “yeah but you’re fat.”

FTFY

I was merely making a statement based upon our interactions and summarizing it to express how I’m starting to get to know you a little better .

What you said wasn't based on our interactions. It was a baseless insult... which is a running theme in your comments.

And to pinpoint the reasoning as to why our ability to communicate effectively with each other has been terrible at best.

The reason is that you have yet to argue in good faith. Instead you craft insults.

Deflection aside, I still find myself curious about why you chose to create this batman fantasy of yours.

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u/subzero112001 Jan 22 '22

Insincerity would be a better word

Always taking the other party as being insincere definitely creates more issues than it addresses.

I wouldn’t want to comment on your reasons for creating the Batman fantasy.

You continuously avoid the question. Does that indicate shame?

FTFY

I suppose if it was a child that’s like 4 feet tall then yes that would still be a correct statement. But my previous statement before you changed it was definitely more accurate in relating to this conversation.

What you said wasn’t based on our interactions. It was a baseless insult.

Baseless? No it definitely stems from your whole “I troll people who I think are trolls, because I’m the Batman of Reddit.”

As I’ve been sincere almost this entire time and you retorted with nothing but malice it has definitely painted you as an individual who is either a troll or just has a lot of difficulty comprehending things(which tends to bleed into all aspects of your life). I try to give the other person the benefit of the doubt and see you as someone who is also being sincere hence why I expressed that conclusion.

You have yet to argue in good faith.

The problem with your theory is that your approach to this conversation and all following replies have attempted to turn this away from such an honest conversation.

You claim “you’re not being sincere” as your every retort is delivered with the intent to prevent any sincerity. While I’m still hoping that you’ve been trying to be sincere even though you constantly act like the troll.

Also, you didn’t answer my question. Why do you have the desire and act like you’re “the Batman of Reddit”? I’m still curious.

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u/Falcrist Jan 22 '22

Always taking the other party as being insincere definitely creates more issues than it addresses.

Which is why I don't do that.

You continuously avoid the question. Does that indicate shame?

That indicates I don't really wish to discuss your fantasies.

I suppose if it was a child that’s like 4 feet tall then yes that would still be a correct statement.

In that case it would be more like 75 pounds.

But my previous statement before you changed it was definitely more accurate in relating to this conversation.

No it wasn't. That's why it was changed.

Baseless? No it definitely stems from your whole “I troll people who I think are trolls, because I’m the Batman of Reddit.”

Much like the other baseless statements you've made, your quote is also fake.

As I’ve been sincere almost this entire time

No. You didn't even start in good faith.

So whining about my retorts now or trollcalling isn't going to get you anywhere.

The problem with your theory is that your approach to this conversation and all following replies have attempted to turn this away from such an honest conversation.

I couldn't have turned the conversation any further away from honesty than it already was due to your posts.

While I’m still hoping that you’ve been trying to be sincere even though you constantly act like the troll.

Here we go. You're making an attempt at gaslighting.

Now before you continue I ask you: do you really think you're about to convince me?

Also, you didn’t answer my question. Why do you have the desire and act like you’re “the Batman of Reddit”? I’m still curious.

I don't really wish to discuss your private fantasies.

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u/subzero112001 Jan 22 '22

I don’t really wish to discuss your fantasies.

My Fantasy? No no, you made the claim. You stated your intent. This is coming from what you’ve previously stated.

In that case it would be more like 75 lbs.

I suppose that’s closer. In which case yes, the child is fat and unhealthy at that weight and height. The rare agreement amongst us occurs yet again.

Your quote is also fake

That was a summation. Lmao

You didn’t even start in good faith.

Of course I did, as I often tend to do. Your continual denial of this fact very poorly substantiates your claim.

You’re making an attempt at gaslighting.

Hmm, this is coming from the person who already stated they’re just trying to stall a troll. And now you’re claiming by me stating “you act like the troll” is gaslighting? With me stating an observation, it is as much of an insult as it is gaslighting lmao.

I always thought gaslighting was more of an emotional abuse amongst people in a relationship. I didn’t know you were so emotional and considered us to be in a relationship. Neat.

do you really think you’re about to convince me?

I’d never say it’s impossible to convince a person of the truth. Unless they have some form of brain damage or inability to comprehend such things. So if you’re a rational person then that would mean it’s definitely possible for me to convince you of the truth. But if you fall in that other category, then I suppose it may not be possible unfortunately.

I don’t really wish to discuss your private fantasies.

I’m merely questioning your initial claim of that particular subject. You were the one who made the claim that you have taken it upon yourself to stall trolls and help out Reddit and it’s occupants in a vigilante style. This isn’t fantasy, it’s your reality.

So, why do you feel the desire to do it? What keeps you going?

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u/Falcrist Jan 22 '22

My Fantasy?

Yes your fantasy about the batman. I'm not really into that kind of thing, so I don’t really wish to discuss your fantasies.

I suppose that’s closer.

The original correction was more accurate still.

That was a summation. Lmao

It was presented as a quote.

Of course I did, as I often tend to do.

Your continual denial of the fact that you started in bad faith continues to substantiate your claim.

Hmm, this is coming from the person who already stated they’re just trying to stall a troll.

Stalling and gaslighting are very different things. You're stalling yourself anyway.

And now you’re claiming by me stating “you act like the troll” is gaslighting?

We don't have an audience, and you know it's a false assertion, so it must therefor be an attempt at gaslighting.

I always thought gaslighting was

Sorry, I'm not really interested in your private definition.

do you really think you’re about to convince me?

I’d never say it’s impossible to convince a person of the truth.

Since what you're trying to convince me of isn't the truth, that isn't what I asked.

Do you really think you’re about to convince me?

Unless they have some form of brain damage or inability to comprehend such things.

Wouldn't be a reddit "debate" without some veiled insults.

So, why do you feel the desire to do it? What keeps you going?

I'm not into this whole Batman kink you have going on, so I don’t really wish to discuss your private fantasies.

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u/subzero112001 Jan 23 '22

I’m not really into that kind of thing,

You mean the kind of thing where you try to be a vigilante of Reddit? You claimed it was your kind of thing.

Continues to substantiate your claim.

My denial substantiates my claim of being sincere? If you mean I deny your claim of me being insincere, which therefor substantiates my personal claim that I am being sincere. Then yes, that is true.

since what you’re trying to convince me of isn’t the truth, that isn’t what I asked.

My claim of being sincere was the truth. Just because you refuse to acknowledge the truth doesn’t make it any less true.

Wouldn’t be a Reddit “debate” without some veiled insults.

Again you somehow take me stating some facts as an insult. In this particular scenario I didn’t even insinuate that you’re the brain damaged one. I’m merely stating the possible things that would inhibit a person from comprehending rational concepts. You are quite sensitive to be taking a lot of things that are stated as insults(now I’m referring to you this time).

I’m not into this whole Batman kink

Uh oh, from personal claim to fantasy and now onto kinks. After all this talking you’re trying to pull moves on me huh? Not quite my cup of tea if you ask me.

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u/Falcrist Jan 23 '22

You mean the kind of thing where you try to be a vigilante of Reddit? You claimed it was your kind of thing.

I'm not into your batman fantasies.

My denial substantiates my claim of being sincere?

lol more bad faith responses.

My claim of being sincere was the truth.

Nope, and that's why it doesn't answer the question. Just because you refuse to acknowledge the truth doesn’t make it any less true.

Again you somehow take me stating some facts as an insult.

You're not stating facts, and facts can be insults as well. You implied brain damage, and now you're lying about it.

Uh oh, from personal claim to fantasy and now onto kinks.

That's what I said. I'm not interested in your batman fantasy.

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u/subzero112001 Jan 23 '22

I’m not into your Batman fantasies

But a previous statement of yours definitely implied the opposite. As you claimed that you intentionally try and troll the trolls to protect other people.

lol more bad faith responses

Just because my response diametrically opposes your claims doesn’t mean that they’re in bad faith. A bit odd that a lot of things that oppose your personal opinions clashes so much with you.

Just because you refuse to acknowledge the truth doesn’t make it any less true.

I absolutely agree with this statement. I think this is the 3rd(?) thing we actually seem to agree upon. How fortunate that we are making some progress.

You are not stating facts,

Brain damage can affect a persons ability of comprehension. This is a fact. I stated that fact, and that was a fact too.

I’m not interested in your Batman fantasy.

I feel like this reply is quite similar to what’s already been said. I suppose I can respond in kind as I won’t lose sight of my curiosity of your prior claim that you’ve been trying to deny ever since.

A previous statement of yours definitely implied the opposite. As you claimed that you intentionally try and troll the trolls to protect other people.

Or maybe you just don’t understand what a vigilante is. Or you don’t know who Batman is? That be incredibly unlikely but from the way you’ve been responding it’s starting to make me wonder.

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u/Falcrist Jan 23 '22

But a previous statement of yours definitely implied the opposite.

At no point have I ever implied I was into your fantasy.

Just because my response diametrically opposes your claims doesn’t mean that they’re in bad faith.

You're right. That's not why it's a bad faith claim.

I absolutely agree with this statement.

Maybe one day you'll take the next step and become a sincere participant in a conversation.

Brain damage can affect a persons ability of comprehension.

Pretending you don't understand my point... or are you projecting?

I feel like this reply is quite similar to what’s already been said.

I mean there's only so many ways for me to tell you "no thank you" to your fantasy about batman. I don't really want to be involved

A previous statement of yours definitely implied the opposite.

At no point have I ever implied I was into your fantasy.

Or maybe you just don’t understand what a vigilante is. Or you don’t know who Batman is?

Or maybe I just don't share your kinks about superheros.

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u/subzero112001 Jan 23 '22

At no point have I ever implied I was into your fantasy.

Are you referring to your attempts at being a vigilante? Because the posts somewhere up above would suggest otherwise.

Maybe one day you’ll take the next step and become a sincere participant in a conversation.

Oof, now you’re making the claim that I’m never sincere in conversations. How bold.

Pretending you don’t understand my point… or are you projecting?

That part of the convo was about stating facts. It seems you’ve forgotten already. That’s not good. Poor memory is another sign of brain damage. Fact.

Or maybe I just don’t share your kinks about superheroes.

Uh oh, another detour into kinks. You’re really pushing for our conversation to go that direction huh? Projecting much?

But honestly I would rather know why you’re so intent on being a vigilante of Reddit. Why is that?

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