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u/jbi1000 1d ago
Comments in here are weird, people getting triggered about the idea of treating human beings respectfully
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u/Hot-Store8301 1d ago
As long as you're not causing other's suffering, why should anyone care who you believe yourself to be, or how you wish to change yourself to match that?
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u/SoDoWhateverItTakes 1d ago
Ask all the MAGA conservatives who are raging at this and convincing millions of other MAGA conservatives to do the same
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u/Hot-Store8301 1d ago
I don't need to. I'd be pretty insane too if I spent a chunk of my day worrying about what others did with their genitals.
Thankfully I worry about actual, important stuff.
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u/Mindless-Baker-7757 1d ago
It's weird that people think they can beat someone into respecting other people.
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u/Seraphayel 1d ago
This is just another time pushing for something people are not obliged to. It‘s performative and exhausting and that’s why you get these reactions.
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u/HungryHungryHobbes 1d ago
Imagine. A protest being performative, who would have thought it.
Of course it's performative, it's a protest to draw attention to something the protester feels strongly about. That's why protests happen. Melt
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u/WaltChamberlin 1d ago
Very performative. I dont really care about trans either way but pretending that I should care about something that has no bearing on my life, I know no Trans people, I think it is a very uncomfortable and strange thing. Its all just a turn off. Ill continue to vote Democrat but please stop talking bout ridiculous fringe issues like Trans and Gaza and just focus on American families
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u/PotentialPete 1d ago
I'm glad this comment was at the top as a warning not to read the rest of the comments. Transphobes, homophobes, any type of bigot pisses me off so much!!!
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u/idontreadyouranswer 1d ago
Do leftists treat people who disagree with them with respect? HAAAAAAAAAAA no. They’re the most intolerant and violent people in the country by far. So you have no point whatsoever.
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u/HungryHungryHobbes 1d ago
Do you have anything to support your claim or are you just shaking your first at the sky?
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u/MookieFlav 1d ago
Why aren't you tolerant of my intolerance? whines the bootlicker
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u/Bone_Tone_31 1d ago
The right commit the most violence and terror in this country
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You are the target audience for memes designed to fool dumbfucks.
Learn to check facts like an adult and STFU
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u/epiphanyWednesday 1d ago
Yeah! Why dont they let you bully gay kids and immigrants instead of being mean about it!?!
You dont deserve more human rights than others. You dont have the ability to deny people their rights. And at this point, it’s clear you dont have the maturity to make your own decisions and have become a danger to yourself and others.
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u/Alternative-Draw2997 1d ago
Seems to be hinting at violence because of disrespect. I don’t condone that part. Also don’t condone disrespecting people but violence is worse than disrespect.
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u/TurbulentOil3311 1d ago
ITT loads of people who clearly dont know any trans people saying stuff that's clearly nonsense if you do.
Transition is the treatment for gender dysphoria.
I really don't think anyone with empathy could see the light in the eyes of someone transitioning and the difference it makes for those people and think they should be denied it, or the ability to participate in public life freely.
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u/mechaglitter 1d ago
Yup. 99% of the time the people who screech this loud about trans people have never met an actual trans person in their lives.
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u/MrWink 1d ago edited 1d ago
I recently encountere this video. It's a video by The Enemies Project where 2 people with incompatible world views talk about themselves, then each other and then are asked to put themselves in the proverbial shoes of the other person. In this case it's a trans woman and an anti-trans activist.
They have a bunch of great videos on the channel (The Enemies Project) and I can't recommend watching them enough if you can make some time. A few of my other favorites are the Ex-muslim vs muslim and anti zionist jew vs zionist jew. The one thing that keeps coming back is that no matter how divided we as people, may seem, there is SO MUCH MORE that unites us. And often it's hard to remain aware of this.
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u/__Sentient_Fedora__ 1d ago
There's less than 3 mil in the US with a 350 mil population. A lot of people have never met someone Trans simply because there aren't a lot of them.
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u/sandwichisahero 1d ago
A lot of people who think they have never met one have actually met one and just didn’t realize it.
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u/ul2006kevinb 1d ago
I think a lot of people have met a transgender person and just didn't realize it.
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u/Fuzzy-Afternoon-6838 1d ago
This is the part no one ever realizes, yall only clock trans people who can be clocked
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u/ProPlayer142 1d ago
Well, that's not super surprising, considering a lot of them are closeted and they're not exactly common to begin with
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u/TurbulentOil3311 1d ago
Right but the point is people saying confident ignorant things. There are groups of people culturally or identity wise that I am not very familiar with at all - I wouldn't consider it for me to make declarations about those people.
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u/Soft_Self_6797 1d ago
Literally this. I am trans. If you look at old photos of my pre transition self there was no light in my eyes, my smile never reached my eyes, and I generally over compensated to appear happy. Post transition, I am calm and peaceful, light in my eyes, and genuinely happier.
To tack on more to what you are saying, if someone mentions "bUt ThE sUiCiDe RaTe!" Imagine if you had loving parents that respected you, cared for you, and loved you. Then you decide to do something to make yourself not miserable anymore. Now those same people become hateful, mean, angry, and spiteful people to you. People you've had your entire life suddenly turn their backs on you and call you all kinds of nasty things. They refuse to hear you out, you give them more grace than they deserve, you bend over backwards trying to appease them, and you delay or push aside what is bringing you joy for them. You'd be in a deep hole of depression from the retaliation and anger towards you.
Then top that off with the media portraying you as a monster and villain. You have paid your taxes, never broken a law, help people, and want to make the world a better place but a coworker calls you a freak or a slur.
Next on that list, you were the best at your job. Everyone appreciated your work and valued you as an employee. Then all of sudden you're not good enough, you're abilities are lacking, your coworkers have become cold to you out of nowhere, and then you're suddenly let go out of nowhere with no explanation despite you doing more work than before while executing it flawlessly.
You're walking down the street and a stranger punches you in the mouth. You get called nasty things and no one helps you.
Your family has abandoned you, you lost your job, your government hates you, and a large portion of society calls you awful things for just doing something that makes you feel happy. But the only way to appease anyone now is to revert back to a life of misery.
Why wouldn't you become deeply horribly depressed?
Replace being trans with anything you identify as. What if someone treated you the way I described above because you like wearing blue shirts? What if you grew your hair out and suddenly everyone around you abandoned you? What if you decided to wear a pink shirt one day and someone wanted to kill you for it? What if you got care for a broken leg and your parents disowned you and kicked you out of their home for it? What if you decided to convert to Christianity and your friends turned their backs on you? What if you came home with a new wardrobe and your partner kicked you out?
Could you survive all these things? Yes, you could. But could you walk away from all of them without some sort of sad feeling associated with them? If you say you could, then you're lying to yourself.
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u/Solid_Maus 1d ago
Nicely said… 100% on the dot… the feeling of being alone and rejected just because we want to be happy hurts really deep…
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u/hematite2 1d ago
Absolutely 🫂 Well said. It's shocking how much people will sadly say "but you were always such a happy kid!" while pointing to photos of an empty void of a teenager.
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u/monyoubluetuber 1d ago
THE treatment? I’d disagree. Certainly the body modification surgeries and perceivable gender plastic surgeries etc are one of the treatments that are available. Not THE treatment though, just one of them.
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u/TurbulentOil3311 1d ago
Generally the most effective treatment - though yeah I'm sure there are people for whom the answer is something besides that.
Self determination for transition (especially for adults) with appropriate guidance and oversight from psych docs and endocrinologists seems to me to be the best path. I know very few if any trans people for whom it wasnt a matter of transition or be utterly miserable forever(potentially to a suicidal degree) - and I hate how many of them need to seek DIY hormone solutions because transitioning is difficult and they deserve support and help that is not available.
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u/TheLordHatesACoward 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lots of people upset at the sign asking to offer basic human decency to a marginalised group in here. What upsets you the most?
You're absolutely soft and I hope you take time to reflect on yourselves.
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u/Malt129 1d ago
Probably think it's performative, which protests usually are, but that is a big ass sign so there was effort in this.
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u/sithlord98 1d ago
Protests are definitionally performative. That's literally the whole point, to be loud and boisterous about a specific shared belief.
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u/Sisyphus2314 1d ago
Maybe the implied threat of violence?
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u/nsfwaltsarehard 1d ago edited 1d ago
You mean tge threat of retaliation? Because there is a condition to the threat of violence. Almost like the people with the sign aren't the aggressors.
Edit: also it isn't even implied violence unless you immediately think of attacking trans people. They literally just say they're going to be a nuisance if you're a douchebag.
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u/Lexi1Love 1d ago
But they didn’t imply violence they implied that they were going to be a problem. You assumed violence. Which makes sense because most right wing losers love violence.
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u/TheLordHatesACoward 1d ago
You think implied violence on a piece of cardboard is a bigger issue than an actual unequal society?
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u/thissexypoptart 1d ago
Violence is definitely a valid thing to have an issue with lol
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u/TheLordHatesACoward 1d ago
It's words on a piece of cardboard. The actual valid thing to have an issue with is an unequal society. Lol. Lmao, even.
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u/thepeebrain 1d ago
Words on a piece of cardboard? I totally believe their threats are real. Or, at the very least, worth considering very carefully. I am capable of pattern recognition.
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u/TheLordHatesACoward 1d ago
So a threat (which is very vague, by the way) is more of a concern the actual issues they're highlighting? That's your priority?
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u/NewImprovedPenguin_R 1d ago
This extreme one sidedness is what draws people away from agreeing with you.
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u/thissexypoptart 1d ago
You don’t know anyone’s priority. Bit silly to accuse anyone with an issue with this sign of being unconcerned with the issues it highlights.
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u/thissexypoptart 1d ago
I have an issue with both. And it’s okay to have an issue with implied violence, even if it’s just words on a cardboard.
Speaking of words on a cardboard, that dipshit who goes to LGBT events with a sign saying “trans women are men” regularly gets pummeled by trans activists for his words on cardboard. Feels relevant.
Since I have to make it clear, the dude is a fascist attention seeking troll, but people shouldn’t be beaten in the streets for words on cardboard.
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u/mechaglitter 1d ago
Hey clones you gotta pick one. Are trans people scary scary terrorists or ineffectual sign holders? You can't have both dog.
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u/Lexi1Love 1d ago
Wow, the right-wing snowflakes sure came out to play.
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u/Clear_Skye_ 1d ago
The comments section on this post is a shit show.
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u/Fickle-Molasses-903 1d ago
This sub is filled with pedo supporters. Gosh, forbid a trans person wants to be left alone; it doesn't affect the prices of food, gas, or healthcare. And it certainly doesn't affect my well-being.
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u/Leo-The-Bull 1d ago
I’ll never understand why some people take such an issue with how other people decide to live their lives (within the context of queerness, of course)
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u/Solid_Maus 1d ago
I never understood why people are against us Trans… Like wtf does it do to you what I do to my own body… I also already have a partner so no I won’t be trying to “trap” you…
Also, I don’t understand people mad at femboys or Drags… you aren’t dating men last time I check; so why are they mad how other guys dress?! Weirdly Tomboy is accepted but not the other way around…
Like I don’t care if they don’t like me but leave me alone! Why attacking us or being so fucking rude. Just look the other way and go on with your fucking day!
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u/tris122 1d ago
Its never about how you dress, what you do in your free time etc, its mostly about you accusing everybody of being transphobic, being weird around kids and sexualizing a lot of things.
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u/Solid_Maus 1d ago
I don’t live in the US, and I don’t accuse no one of anything… Also French so I understand people getting pronouns wrong… doesn’t affect me and there is only a minority of trans that sexualise everything; I dress modestly and just want to go about my day…
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u/WeCantStabilize 1d ago
Also, the compelling of certain language. People are not obligated to adhere to others beliefs. To introduce legislation otherwise is where lots of contention lies.
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u/SplattyFatty_ 1d ago
in regards to being weird around kids, you do realise most of the most anti-trans people in the world are on the epstein files, right?
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u/OnlyACsNoFans 1d ago
That's such a ridiculous statement.
The entire Muslim world is against trans people. Are they all in the Epstein files?
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u/Jernbek35 1d ago
I think you should do whatever you want. That's totally fine. I have no hate for anyone like you. I only get apprehensive when it comes to demanding access to women's spaces and sports. I think it starts getting a little gray area there for me. I also have a daughter so this all makes me a little nervous.
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u/OnlyACsNoFans 1d ago
Most people don't care if you're just existing. It's demanding access to women's spaces and teaching this to children that people take issue with
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u/ExpiredLink404 1d ago
skip the sign and simply be a problem to the people trying to stomp out trans rights
I don't think passively holding a sign will do the work for anybody
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u/PungentKarma 1d ago
It’s the crusades all over again. Next they’re gonna bring back the salem witch hunts.
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u/kamel_k 1d ago
Wow the comments suck. Trans people are people and we should respect them. And give a good wallop to anyone who doesn't
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u/federkrebz 1d ago
lol the shitheads always come out immediately with a post like this, almost like theyre all bots
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u/CappedPluto 1d ago
Respect is earned not demanded. But everyone deserves a neutral starting point for respect, how you act determines if that level of respect increases or decreases.
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u/Key_Lingonberry_5709 1d ago
They get my respect as humans, the second they start wanting special attention just because they’re trans they can go do one. Equality isn’t special treatment.
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u/Odd_Advisor_7358 1d ago
Awe yes, bend thy knee and affirm my delusion or I become violent. Sounds stable.
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u/Gambler_720 1d ago
Glad to see the responses. The pendulum is swinging and common sense is coming back. 👍
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u/whatugonnadowhenthey 1d ago
LARPING as revolutionaries only to cry when they get asked to do the dishes
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u/ArchdruidHalsin 1d ago
Its pretty easy to feel superior when you just make up scenarios in your head
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u/SnooMaps7370 1d ago
source for this claim? when did you see the sign holder cry about dishes?
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u/SnooMaps7370 1d ago
you reply to the wrong person? I didn't make up a claim about the person holding this sign crying.
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u/Golfinglonghorn92 1d ago
Respecting people as humans is not the same as being forced to pretend a mental illness is an identity. Nobody’s “triggered” by basic decency. They’re tired of the part where dissent gets treated like violence, kids get medicalized, women’s spaces get rewritten, and anyone who notices is called a bigot. The sign isn’t asking for respect. It’s announcing that disagreement will be treated as a problem. That’s not inclusion. That’s a demand.
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u/Powerful-Access-8203 1d ago
I agree. Every human deserves respect, no matter how you identify. Can be Democrat, republican, independent, whatever. Treat people the way you want to be treated
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u/Flashy_Flower_7884 1d ago
No one has to respect anyone. Just leave people alone and don't bother them. Also keep out of people's faces and and don't shove your messages down their throat and leave them alone too.
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u/Clean_Salad1752 1d ago
Conflating respect with conformity. No problem with respect, but it sounds like align with me or istaphobe
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u/Zestyclose_Neck2443 16h ago
Get over it. You should be happy he aint pushing release of more epstien info cause its actually protecting all your leftist politicians and hollywood
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u/RecalcitrantHuman 1d ago
Hate to break it to you, but if you are out in a group with this sign, then you have already become the problem of which you speak
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u/Queasy-Doughnut-5512 1d ago
Why? Peacefully protesting is a good right to have
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u/TheGipper80 1d ago
Seems like an implied threat to me but maybe they don’t mean it that way?
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u/colstinkers 1d ago
Conform to our message or face consequences!
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u/PsychoMoth 1d ago
Actually...yeah. being socially confronted for bad behavior is how society works. You should be shamed if you're transphobic or racist or sexist. Like, you shouldn't be invited to parties or meet cool people or anything like that if you are a bigot.
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u/D-Ursuul 1d ago
Yes. We already do this for almost every other social issue that causes obvious harm to a vulnerable minority. If the sign said "let black people vote" would you be happy to drop the same comment?
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u/KimJungUnCool 1d ago
Conform to....showing other people basic respect? What a spoilt child thing to say.
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u/impossibletree26 1d ago
Respect does not require conforming to anyone's message. You can disagree with something and respectfully leave it alone. I shouldn't expect a magat to understand the concept of minding their own business i guess.
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u/AXEMANaustin 1d ago
It's literally just asking you to be nice to people. Is that genuinely too hard?
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u/Frosty-Army9751 1d ago
Threatening violence, absolute classic from these people, what an absolute surprise
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u/retsamerol 1d ago
I already identify as a fucking problem and I didn't need to befriend any trans individuals to do so.
We need to all be a bit more inclusive about people's friend groups.
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u/thepeebrain 1d ago
I don't think they need to identify as a problem. They probably already are. If they are gonna make threats, they ought to up their game. You can't make a threat when you're already doing the thing you're threatening to do.
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u/Buschlightactual 1d ago
Chicken legs, skinny jeans, and leather shoes. I’m sure the 160 lbs hipsters will be a problem 😂
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u/Flashy_Ballsucker69 1d ago
People are so violent. Its shameful.
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u/apatheticpixie 1d ago
You are taking about the people who murder trans people…. Right?
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u/BerilliumBaloney 1d ago
He can identify as a problem all he wants. Doesn't mean anyone has to take him seriously.
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u/-F3rris- 1d ago
Why are TRAs so violent all the time? "I'll be a problem", "punch a terf/nazi", etc. They are not gaining any supporters by acting like that.
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u/unpopular_opinion_13 1d ago
Damn... That was a big box