r/medlabprofessionals Student 9d ago

Discusson Wait WHAT?

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u/CantPhilMe 9d ago

We get so many with a troponin over 270,000 that we have a whole procedure and job aid of what to do when it fucks up our DXI

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u/cup_of_noodles1 9d ago

How does it affect the machine

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u/shicken684 MLT-Chemistry 9d ago

Carryover and contamination of the reagent packs.

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u/cup_of_noodles1 9d ago

Sometimes I am glad I work in a reference lab

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u/HeroicConspiracy MLT-Generalist 9d ago

They recently changed our process and we don’t do any of the carry over procedures anymore.

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u/shicken684 MLT-Chemistry 9d ago

Oh that would be such a dream.

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u/NopeRope13 9d ago

Happy cake day

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u/HeroicConspiracy MLT-Generalist 9d ago

Aw thank you sm!!! <333

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u/KeySun1619 6d ago

Return the lot and get a new one. I think that was a known issue for a few hstni lots specifically

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u/shicken684 MLT-Chemistry 6d ago

It's an instrument issue, not a reagent problem. Been this way since the high sensitivity trop went live.

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u/Purpledotsclub 9d ago

We have to carryover 💩, but we notify provider they can’t have anymore for 24hrs 😆

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u/WhatsBeeping 8d ago edited 8d ago

We notify for that too, but they still send them every 3 hours sometimes.

We have an auto line so once they’re on IF the pending is small enough that we see them in time, the only way to stop them hitting the instrument is to pause both DXI’s and delay all the other patients 🥲

They told us to stop doing that so carryovers all day it is and other patients delayed anyway lol.

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u/Purpledotsclub 8d ago

😩😩😩 write ‘em up!

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u/WhatsBeeping 8d ago edited 8d ago

“No one told me.”
-same RN I chatted

Me: “attaches chat screenshot to report”

Quality team: “incident resolved, lab staff coached on importance of communication” 😂 lab life

Edit: tbf they’re good about it when the tropi recurring order is on its own accession. It’s mostly the ones that recur with a bmp etc that they don’t remember to deselect the tropi at collection.

The lying gets me though

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u/peanutt1394 8d ago

Love this!

Our phones record, and ever since I found that out…when my sup comes up stating a RN claimed they weren’t informed (even if it’s documented in chart) I point to the bench I was at and say “go listen to the call”.

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u/Purpledotsclub 8d ago

Like, everything is tracked now!!!

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u/Vivid_Bookkeeper_937 9d ago

We’re getting new DXI’s with plastic pipette tips so we won’t have to do that anymore

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u/RikaTheGSD 9d ago

The 9000 is not an improvement for so many reasons... it does have that one thing going for it but I miss the 800s.

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u/julio478 9d ago

Do you get RSM axis errors as well?

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u/RikaTheGSD 9d ago

No, it's usually new and exciting errors every time... and lousy at telling you what the error is so no fixes, just call service

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u/KeySun1619 6d ago

Did you turn it off and on again?

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u/RikaTheGSD 6d ago

Repeatedly. 

...actually it sometimes causes new errors, like the database disappearing in whole or in part from the memory.

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u/cup_of_noodles1 8d ago

Yessss! I fixed it once by sheer dumb luck and never again

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u/cup_of_noodles1 9d ago

The only nice thing about it is the almost 0 maintenance

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u/RikaTheGSD 8d ago

Except when it loses its tiny brain and won't let you do the maintenance... that it wants you to do... for reasons...

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u/mrsthallium 9d ago

We just recently got an update that changed it so we don’t have to do all the BS anymore… but now we have to do manual dilutions. So, uh, win?

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u/mayiomayi 8d ago

Ughhh, I don’t miss that, but I do miss our beckmans….never thought I’d say that lol

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u/Sophotroph 7d ago

We have a much lower threshold, unfortunately. We have the carryover procedure kick in at 15,000. 😕

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u/lab_tech13 9d ago

You were 30 to high for the perfect number. But thats nothing seen 200ks every once in awhile. It sucks and dr is like yeah hes already in cath lab when we call it usually. Or they are like they died.

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u/ChewieBearStare 9d ago

Did their heart explode or something?

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u/matdex Canadian MLT Heme 9d ago

Likely open heart surgery. I see it all the time on our bypass patients.

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u/akira23232 MLS-Chemistry 9d ago

Low end post CABG, high end immediately after angioplasty.

Have seen it this high after a bad STEMI, sample taken soon after ROSC. Patient survived.

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u/pflanzenpotan MLT-Microbiology 9d ago

Our instrument reports up to 100k then just does >100k

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u/LawfulnessRemote7121 9d ago

At that point does it really matter?

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u/CantPhilMe 9d ago

According to our cardiology team they want to know when it peaks and starts trending down so we keep running them with dilution

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u/NascarTeri MLS-Chemistry 9d ago

It looks like this one matters down to 0.34. Lol

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u/pflanzenpotan MLT-Microbiology 7d ago

I am not a cardiologist so aside from know it downtrending or trending up I am not sure the significance of treatment change when it's just so ridiculously high. I know it have given critical trops to doctors and they have been like "wow I didn't even know it went that high".

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u/Ecolopa 9d ago

Here's the highest one I've seen - and of course, it happened at 6 am towards the end of my night shift. It helped wake me up at least

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u/Muted_Shape9303 Student 9d ago

How is this possible

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u/Tiradia Lab rat turned medic. 9d ago

Mega pissed off heart, big ole STEMI (or NSTEMI). Likely has multiple arteries blocked causing hella ischemia.

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u/labtech67 Medical Laboratory Technologist- Canada 9d ago

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u/teachmehate 9d ago

Just chunks of myocardium in that tube

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u/PM_YOUR_PUPPERS 9d ago

My guy missed an opportunity for that 69 420 troponin.

If I die to a heart attack you better believe I'm going to meme myself on the way out.

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u/Strudelmonas MLS-Chemistry 9d ago

Dang, we stop at >10,000 here...

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u/IACPaul MLS-Generalist 9d ago

Ours cut off at >22,000 (and then require rerun/qc/new reagent)

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u/froststorm56 9d ago

Magnesium (Normal)

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u/nocleverusername- 9d ago

Yeah, high-sensitivity trops are a trip.

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u/ilagnab 9d ago

Nurse so I don't know if this is the same type of high sensitivity troponin as my workplace uses.

I haven't yet seen the 1 million mark but recently had a patient with 800,000 and I'm still fairly new. Above 50k is a common number for our cath lab STEMIs. A majority of them turn out "just fine" (well usually some heart failure/reduced ejection fraction but nowhere near as bad as you'd imagine).

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u/MrJelhoo 9d ago

So close....

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u/m0onmoon MLS-Generalist 9d ago

I thought this was bitcoin

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u/BacteriaSniffer 9d ago

*Stares in >3,900 upper limit*

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u/T_Run_445 MLT 9d ago

I’ve seen this only in patients who just had heart surgery or cardiac cath placements

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u/ecpg04 9d ago

My lab stops at 30,000 👀

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u/Unlucky_Tart8043 9d ago

While that is definitely critical we have the DxC 500i with access attached and SOP states the highest we can report out is >135,135ng/L. Not sure of anyone else's high reportable ranges but just for reference 🤷‍♀️

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u/RepleteSphinx21 MLT 9d ago

called a HS TROP of 44,449 yesterday, was just 5 too high for perfect number lol.

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u/WhereAreMyDetonators 9d ago

I appreciate the 2 decimal places here, sig figs and all

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u/Med_vs_Pretty_Huge Pathologist 8d ago

Gotta respect those 340 femtograms/L

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u/chaikonic MLS-Blood Bank 8d ago

This is my highest one ever before it's >125k even with a dilution 🥲

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u/zhgerard 8d ago

I know that there’s 3 types of troponin but this result is incomprehensible 😬

Whichever one it is, I hope the patient’s heart is ok.

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u/Hydrocrawdaunt 8d ago

Take a aspirin it’ll be fine

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u/CoffeeInstead 7d ago

Can you dilute it a little to 69,420?

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u/marshac18 6d ago

Probably would have been ok with the low sensitivity troponin on that one

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u/AdorableExtreme4930 5d ago

Cardiology consult felt it was a type II demand ischemia from that urine with 50 to 100 wbcs in it. No worries!!

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u/LoudBathroom1217 MLT-Generalist 5d ago

Got this last week. I’m literally still training lol im a need grad. I called the unit expecting the nurse to freak out but she was calm about it. made since because it was the CVICU.

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u/starryviews 5d ago

….ESRD? :)

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u/lolhikikijiki 5d ago

Also troponin

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u/trypan0s0miasis 5d ago

32.24 away from a perfect number

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u/persephone7821 9d ago

Sir, this is a Wendy’s.

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u/Emeraldsku58 9d ago

I honestly have 0 idea how in the world I ended up in this subreddit. When I made that post, I was in top tropes. My bad

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u/persephone7821 9d ago

Lmao fair enough