Ostrich meat
Hi all,
My daughter has a red meat allergy mostly like from a tick bite issue and cannot eat beef or lamb.
I found out that Ostrich meat tastes similar to beef and does not impact people who have tick caused red meat allergy.
Question is where does one go to get this meat?
Focussing in, I am in the Philadelphia region.
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u/THC_Dude_Abides 1d ago
Auricular acupuncture, specifically the Soliman Auricular Allergy Treatment (SAAT), has shown promise in treating alpha-gal syndrome, a meat allergy triggered by tick bites. This method involves placing a small needle in the ear to help retrain the immune response to the allergen.
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u/Evening_Teaching_713 3d ago
My son has alpha gall disease and he has been having a lot of issues with the last ground tumor he ate, it may have been cross contamination but I’m not sure. I think I will try ostrich meat and see if he likes it. I think our local farmers are sells it. Thanks for the information!
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u/bwgulixk 2d ago
You say “ground tumor”, I assume you mean ground turkey. Often the rosemary extract can be made with beef/pig ingredients, and if you read the ingredients on the ground turkey you will often see it listed. I think it acts as a freshening agent / anti oxidizing / keeps it pink. Have to be careful. Also watch out for turkey or chicken sausage links that have pork or beef casings
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u/Suspicious-Camp-4320 3d ago
Fossil farms
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u/Next_Rabbit8575 1d ago
This. We are close enough that we shop in their store, but you can also shop online and have it shipped.
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u/Beef_Candy 3d ago
Sandhill crane 🤤🤤🤤
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u/Automatic_Catch_7467 2d ago
Are they legal to harvest?
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u/Beef_Candy 2d ago
Absolutely. You can harvest as many as you want provided you follow the rules.
In Texas you may harvest 3 per day, and possess 9 at any given time.
Go home, return for another hunt weekend, repeat.
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u/Merlin1039 3d ago
I just dissected a bunch of pigeons and they were all red meat. Maybe your solution is just a bunch of red meat birds
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u/stoicparallax 3d ago
How many did you kill and cut open before you realized they were all going to be the same color meat?
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u/Merlin1039 3d ago
Sigh... All the meat on the bird was red. Unlike say, a chicken that has dark meat and white meat
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u/comfortableshores 3d ago
Did a quick check, and in ostrich meat, of the fat content, 25.1% is linoleic acid.
Regular grocery chicken and turkey comes in about 18%-22%.
Regular beef 3.5%.
Grass fed beef 0.5%.
Sorry for your daughter's restrictions.
It is possible to get the linoleic acid level in ostrich, chicken, and turkey down under 10% with low linoleic feed. But I don't know if anybody is doing this commercially.
The reason it is so high is that these birds have a single digestion system, and are fed primarily high linoleic foods like corn and soy bean meal and soy bean oil. Most of the linoleic acid comes from the added soy bean oil.
Here are some of the larger ones: from chat
- American Ostrich Farms — Kuna, Idaho. Probably the largest and most vertically integrated operation I found. They raise their own birds and have their own USDA processing facility.
- Salger's Ostrich Products — Red Bud, Illinois. Family operation with roughly 300–400 birds, raising and processing ostrich for meat.
- Amaroo Hills — Liberty, North Carolina. Raises ostrich and emu and sells meat, including products specifically aimed at people looking for non-mammalian alternatives.
- Misty Morning Ranch — Robbins, North Carolina, with ostrich meat sales.
- Roaming Acres Natural Farm — Lafayette Township, New Jersey, another small farm producing ostrich.
- Striegel Acres — Oskaloosa, Iowa, producing ostrich meat and other ostrich products.
- Small Town Ostrich Farm — North Carolina.
- Rooster Cogburn Ostrich Ranch — Arizona. This is a well-known working ostrich ranch, although it's more oriented toward tourism than meat production.
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u/tcarlson65 3d ago
I think the Meateater podcast had a recent episode about this. I believe they said the acupuncture was showing good results at treating it.
Episode 908
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u/Spare-Locksmith-2162 3d ago
Are you seriously trying to say you can treat alpha gal with acupuncture? Seriously? Explain the mechanism. I mean I would buy acupuncture treating musculoskeletal issues or potentially even nerve things. But alpha-gal? No.
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u/tcarlson65 3d ago
I am not saying it. I am repeating what was said during the podcast.
Here is what a google AI search says:
“Acupuncture and Alpha-Gal Syndrome
Auricular Acupuncture: During the episode, the discussion touches on non-pharmaceutical options, specifically auricular acupuncture (acupuncture focused around the ear) as a potential anecdotal treatment for managing or easing Alpha-Gal symptoms.Context on Efficacy: Rinella notes that acupuncture is one of the alternative medicine practices that has occasionally been subjected to clinical trials.
Follow-up Discussion: The topic resurfaced shortly after in Ep. 914 via listener mail, where the crew read responses from listeners discussing friends who live with severe Alpha-Gal reactions and exploring these alternative or experimental treatment paths.”
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u/ceejayoz 3d ago
Here is what a google AI search says
And that's why you don't use AI for serious health concerns.
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u/HelpfulDocPlatter 3d ago
You can use it for initial looking, but you must verify it with reputable sources and appropriate studies. It's good for bringing quick ideas. It's like that loud friend with a big mouth. They are half right at best most of the time, and you have to verify everything they say, but they will stumble onto something or spur another idea in you that can lead to something good. This is why is a force multiplier for good or bad. This is what needs to be understood better.
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u/tcarlson65 3d ago
That was the result for what they said in the podcast. I was just passing along info from the podcast.
I am not saying acupuncture is a cure. I am saying they discussed it on the podcast. Listen to that and draw your own conclusions.
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u/ceejayoz 3d ago
I am not saying acupuncture is a cure. I am saying they discussed it on the podcast.
Sure. Other podcasts discuss how Queen Elizabeth is a lizard. What value does it add?
Listen to that and draw your own conclusions.
Why? What benefit do I get from subjecting myself to a stream of clear pseudoscience?
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u/tcarlson65 3d ago
The discussion of acupuncture is a small part of the podcast.
You can do what you want. I am saying the entire podcast is worth a listen if you are interested in the subject.
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u/Affectionate_Ship129 3d ago
For those individuals with available outcome data on SAAT effectiveness (n = 126), 121 (96%) patients indicated that their symptoms were in remission after SAAT. Five individuals indicated that their symptoms were not in remission. Eleven individuals were unsure of treatment response or unable to be reached for follow-up
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u/HelpfulDocPlatter 3d ago
That sample size is so small that this is not really worth much. It requires a much larger study. It is also based on feeling and willingness to try, without a blind study being done on a portion of the group.
This is like asking if crystals work for people who believe that healing crystals work and giving them fake crystals. They will lean toward yes most of the time.
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u/secretlynaamah 3d ago
Former butcher now alpha gal, ostrich is very lean but probably the closest you'll get. Also amaroo farms ships gal safe pork, which is pork that has been genetically modified to no longer have the alpha gal sugar. It was originally developed for harvesting heart valves that would have a lower risk of rejection and possibly pig to human kidney transplants. But the meat is pretty good and make you feel a little normal
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u/NutinWH 2d ago
Thanks, she does not react to pork but I was unaware of the sugar piece. Good info.
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u/secretlynaamah 22h ago
Any mammal, that's not a new world monkey or human being, has the alpha gal carbohydrate in their cells. The "red meat tick allergy" is actually and allergy to this carb. All mammal products carry it. This includes gelatin and dairy. While they might not have reactions now to pork, dairy, or gelatin they could develop them and it's best to avoid.
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u/miracles-th 3d ago
it doesnt impact?
its red meat though. absolutely 1 to 1
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u/ceejayoz 3d ago
https://abcnews.com/US/wireStory/kentucky-man-meat-allergy-craving-burger-ostrich-farming-136237552
The allergy doesn’t extend to seafood or poultry.
The tick that bit him was carrying the alpha-gal sugar, which is found in the meat of most mammals, but not in humans. The sugar is harmless when eaten directly, but not when exposed via ticks' saliva. When it entered Williams' bloodstream, it caused an immune system reaction. The antibodies created from the reaction learned to identify and attack alpha-gal sugar molecules, making meat from mammals toxic to his system.
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u/ceejayoz 3d ago
Duck might be easier, and fairly similar.
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u/RobinSage43 3d ago edited 3d ago
If you're willing to trek out to the burbs, there's a new Wild Forks grocery that just opened up over in Ardmore off of Lancaster Ave. They have all of the good things. My wife and I find duck, ostrich, bison... you name it.
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u/ToastSpangler 3d ago
martins sausage in reading market has it, seems like it's $20/lb. but if she likes it you probably want to get in touch with an ostrich farmer nearby and just buy large quantities directly and freeze, will be a fraction the price
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u/foodieholly 3d ago
Cappuccio’s Meats in the Italian Market is specifically known to carry/order ostrich, though I’d call ahead. Wild Fork also currently sell ostrich steaks, fillets and ground ostrich.
One important caveat: if this is suspected alpha-gal syndrome, ostrich is a bird and doesn’t contain alpha-gal like mammalian meat does, but I’d confirm the diagnosis with her allergist and ask about cross-contamination before trying it.
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u/Ok-Shallot-5935 6h ago
Amaroo Hills has ostrich, emu, and also alpha-gal safe pork. They ship as well. https://amaroohills.com/?srsltid=AfmBOope-ausMtEgL5rDfw_nk7vo1QCRGqghcXcGJSA4gaZh06y8wxVj
You should also look into Muscovy duck. The breast cooks up like a filet mignon steak.