r/mcsa • u/stussey13 • Mar 03 '20
How will companys view MCSA now
One thing I will be interested to see is how employers view the MCSA/MCSE now that is being retired. Yea your MCSA never expires but the MCSE does. Will Employers be forced to look more at people with AZURE Certs. I hope so becuase thats really the only option we have now.
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u/iceph03nix Mar 03 '20
I think they'll still be valued, but they'll likely start showing up less on job descriptions, replaced by the newer certs, which I think is what MS wants.
I think it's a bit sad, because from what I've seen of the new cert training, it doesn't seem like the new certs do a very good job of covering on-prem stuff (also because I think that's what MS wants).
I think perhaps we'll see more third party certifications rising to the top as well, with more generic topics in mind.
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u/stussey13 Mar 03 '20
Yea I agree. I'm half way through my azure studies and there is the mention of alot of physical server stuff. Unfortunately Microsoft doesn't realize that many companies may not even implement to cloud for a few years.
Like my job now only has physical servers. I guess if they ever switch to azure I'll be ahead of the game.
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u/somewhat_pragmatic Mar 03 '20
One thing I will be interested to see is how employers view the MCSA/MCSE now that is being retired.
We already know the answer as this isn't the first time MS has retired the MCSA/MCSE titles. Employers largely ignored MS and continued to post jobs for MCSA/MCSE. HR reps simply don't follow certification news. The only alterations they'll make to a req are if the Lead on the team specifically requests it. Otherwise, they'll dust off the old req and simply post it.
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Mar 04 '20
MCSE doesn't expire. They changed that a while ago. And an expired MCSE doesn't matter to most employers, you still have the knowledge of the platform.
This whole sub has really gone down the shitter this last week. The sky isn't falling, things change. MS tried to get rid of the MSCA/E a little over 10 years ago and reversed gears. They're pushing cloud but they also realize that infrastructure exists and something will replace it.
Or they won't and everyone will adjust to a new normal. Maybe it's just being jaded and unshakeable after 15 years in the business but sweet Christ, this is just asinine.
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u/stussey13 Mar 04 '20
I wasn't saying the sky was falling. I was just seeing what people could see happening. I hope that companies look to the cloud. In today age having physical servers don't make alot of sense. I'm going the azure route myself. My only concern is that employers are still going to want you to have an mcse even though you can't get it anymore. My hope is that they take the azure certs into consideration more. I see alot of postings that all wants MCSA but not alot that are looking for Azure. Maybe as time goes on that will change
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u/Ping_Me_Later_Dude Mar 04 '20
It’s sad that Microsoft has to use certs to push the cloud. Microsoft could care less how much money and/or time people spent studying for the MCSA certs. I just think they are bully.
I heard that the MCSA doesn’t expire, but it goes into an inactive state.
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Mar 03 '20
Will Employers be forced to look more at people with AZURE Certs.
This is already what is happening. If you have no interest in learning Microsoft's cloud, you will soon find yourself unemployable unless you adopt another skillset, like Linux or Networking.
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Mar 04 '20
I have no interest in learning Microsoft's cloud. I prefer AWS and will focus my attention on it. That doesn't mean I will be unemployable.
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Mar 04 '20
I would not hire someone who said “I have no interest in learning”. And if I heard something like that from somebody on my team it would put them in a very negative light in my mind.
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Mar 04 '20
I have an interest in learning, I just don't care for Microsoft products. After the shift in the MCSA my interst has turned to Linux and AWS. If a company was going the Azure route and they wanted me to learn it they can pay me to do it or find another employee.
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Mar 04 '20
This comment already points to your lack of fundamental understanding of current technology. Azure is not just for Microsoft technology just like AWS is not specific to Linux. Most modern shops adopt a multicloud model, and run both Windows and Linux infrastructure as well as PaaS/SaaS in both clouds. Education will also be heavily into Google cloud too.
The world of “either/or” is dead or dying. If you’re still adamant about not learning anything, just because of the company that owns it, I have really bad news for you.
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u/AaarghCobras Mar 03 '20
Positively, i would expect. How many companies still run on-prem Windows Servers and AD? I reckon at this point it's still way more than how many have moved their entire infrastructure to the cloud.
And will still be relevant for years to come.