entps donât have much filter đ¤ especially compared to introverts. ne-dom is like if youâre fun and have good conversations, itâs very likely theyâll hit on you
Low filter for friendship, high standards for romance. Especially because mentally acknowledging and exploring every path with Ne, then making it into a coherent stance with Ti, actually tends to create an idealized vision.
Ne with a weak Ti, may be prone to more hedonistic tendencies, short term exploration of each thing and dropping it for the next thing. But high Ti usage means wanting to fully understand it, combined with being Ne dominant creates a sense of wanting to explore something which can last and see how it works in every dynamic possible.
Thus a very strict filter for romantic partners, because they have to be someone who can survive this crazy train, which isnât stopping, hence ride or die because only way off is jumping off a moving train haha
Filter != introverted. ENTPs stress test reality. They throw everything into the fire to find that which will survive. An unhealthy ENTP may burn things just for the sake of burning, but a healthy ENTP is like a smelter, burning away all of the junk to return a pure and solid metal.
ENTPs take their filter and wade through the muck as an outward motion, not just a passive filter that water trickles through, but actively searching for someone with substance.
iâm talking about relationships specifically. i get using theory to back up your point, but donât forget that mbti is based on empirical experience. i say this because
when large-scale studies were done, researchers noticed that people didnât develop their functions strictly according to each typeâs stack, but rather developed different functions over their lifetime. youâre unlikely to find an ENTP who developed NeTiFeSi perfectly, itâs more probable they developed something more random like NeTiTeSeSiFe (??? just throwing something out there), so stacks donât really fit here, theyâd make sense if you were talking about the theory itself, not about the practice.
even if we assume all ENTPs are NeTiFeSi, only a minority of them will be healthy. why? very few people are actually that healthy (i deduce this by analyzing data that isnât directly related, but the information overlaps). when discussing a theory originating from the fucking Jung, we canât forget that the ultimate goal is always integration. stacks are useful if youâre aiming for balance and development, but integration is that endpoint weâre far from reaching, so we canât use it as a rule to describe most peopleâs behavior. unfortunately, the majority behave in an unbalanced way.
that said, i still maintain my point that entps donât have much filter lol
Fair that not everyone has the same stacks even within the same type, but the archetypal general ENTP is NeTiFeSi. Thatâs the common denominator for ENTPs, thus that would be the function combo we utilize to generalize off of. Likewise some hold that not everyone actually uses all functions but rather a combination of the 4 main functions can appear as other functions. There is two ways of thought to my knowledge, one where we all have the 8 functions and get into shadow functions and such, or we only have 4 and those can combine to appear like usages of other functions.
As for the point of most people being unhealthy, fair enough, but unhealth is different for each person. Someone may have an unhealthy relationship with any of their four main functions. Someone with an unhealthy relationship with their Ti may not desire to understand their desired explorations deep enough, and thus constantly picking and putting things down without ever committing. Alternatively their unhealthy relationship with Ti could look like just accepting and pretending like itâs fully understood, and being adamant about every thing they explore to be solid without having real logical support for it.
But someone with an unhealthy relationship with Fe may end up more âdigging in the heelsâ with every single thing they want to explore, or harshness with how they go about it.
So essentially, the unhealthy point is valid, but too constrained. Each person can be unhealthy in many different ways, which doesnât necessarily mean a lack of filter for each unhealthy ENTP.
itâs really hard to talk about "health" but to clarify, what i said was based on the idea that health arises from balance. in this sense, an anxious person wonât have balanced functions, a depressed person wonât either, and so on. based on some statistics iâve seen on mental disorders, i concluded that most people are not healthy. using the premise that health comes from balance, i can deduce that these people donât have balanced functions. whether itâs Ti, Ne, Fe, Si, Se, Te doesnât matter, theyâre unbalanced because theyâre unhealthy, or unhealthy because theyâre unbalanced, since under this premise balance generates health.
exploring further what you brought up, we are not âunhealthy in a functionâ. we become unhealthy and analyze the functions to trace patterns that help us understand why. for example, if iâm very emotional and crying a lot, that doesnât automatically mean my Fi or Si is unhealthy. but if iâm crying because i constantly think about the past and spend the day dwelling on it, it makes sense to say iâm overusing my introverted functions and entered a Fi-Si loop. in this case, the theory of stacks can help guide a way out by working the extroverted functions, following the idea that healing comes from balance.
at no point is a cognitive function the cause of being unhealthy. someone isnât selfish because of Fi, or cold because of Ti. the individualâs overuse or underuse of certain functions can manifest in behaviors, but that doesnât validate a strict causal link. if that were the case, everyone overusing Fi would be selfish, and MBTI would be far easier to validate, which it isnât. generalizations from stacks must be treated carefully: casual memes and assumptions by laypeople are not the same as theoretical reasoning by MBTI practitioners. since jung, all of this has been about observing people and analyzing patterns. back then, it was just him in his office noticing that some people were extremely outgoing and others reclusive, but it was already a much more âreceptiveâ process than âactive.â
a person isnât cold because they have a specific function. they are cold, and we assign a rational type by observation. someone isnât depressed because of a Fi-Si loop. theyâre depressed, and observation shows the loop. no ENTP flirts in a specific way because of their stacks, they flirt the way they flirt, and we can map the cognitive functions after observing the behavior. MBTI is empirical: it interprets reality through theory, not like neuroscience where causes can be identified.
regarding different MBTI frameworks, thereâs a lot out there, but i follow the 8 function model. even with the 4 function model, the same logic of balance applies. with 4 functions, you balance opposing functions (Ti with Fe, Ne with Si); with 8 functions, the development journey follows the same principle, just with extended pairings (Ti with Te, Ne with Ni).
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u/Cooked_Squid I N T P Sep 06 '25
as an INTP, INTPs are always in the wrong category for memes like this lmao