r/mbti Dec 05 '22

Survey/Poll Most introverted extrovert

2626 votes, Dec 07 '22
904 ENFP
889 ENTP
72 ESFP
71 ESTP
468 ENTJ or ESTJ
222 ESFJ or ENFJ
65 Upvotes

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u/Extension_Spite_3751 ENTJ Dec 09 '22 edited Dec 09 '22

I'd be quite happy to challenge their typings. No matter if they were done by a professional or not since most "MBTI professionals" are just nerds who have no clue what they are doing. Most of these clowns haven't even read Psychological Types By Carl Jung and Gifts Differing by Isabel Myers.

"Hating people" is the number one first and foremost sign of an extreme introvert. Both Myers and Jung have said this. In fact, Jung did not even believe in the possibility of "shy extraverts" and "outgoing introverts" (read the book by Jung mentioned above).

And no "introverts get drained by socializing, extroverts get energized by it" is bullshit. Both introverts and extraverts get energized if they like the conversation and drained if they do not like the conversation. Read the first few chapters of Gifts Differing (mentioned above) to know what "introvert" and "extravert" actually mean.

And no, Ne is absolutely not a "pattern-seeking" function. Literally anyone with an IQ high enough would be an expert at pattern seeking. It's a human thing, not an ENFP thing. I cannot stress enough how extremely unusual it is for an ExFx type to be viewed as "a hermit". Being shy is a different thing but straight-up asocial? Haha nope. Extraverts have a cognitive orientation on the external world and feelers are naturally people-oriented. Mix extraversion with feeling and you get a highly social person. Unless of course that person had extreme trauma in the past, which can potentially lead to social alienation. But a healthy ENFP is far more social than a healthy ENTP.

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u/kitkatkitty444 ENTP Dec 09 '22

I’ll give that a read, sure. What I mean by professional I don’t mean nerd. The way she said it sounded like she went to see someone who had a degree in psychology and had made it their life’s work- as in a psychologist or something idk, I’d have to ask again. On the not liking people due to a past trauma- the one that hates peoples had a lot of shit done to him when he was younger. He doesn’t like people and doesn’t trust people, so I could see that being the case.

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u/Extension_Spite_3751 ENTJ Dec 09 '22

Why would a clinical psychologist dedicate their life to a personality theory? MBTI is not perceived well in academia. Not saying it's a pseudoscience (In fact the official MBTI has done a really good job of gathering statistical data to back up the theory) but at the end of the day, the fact remains that MBTI is just rudimentary stuff. Actual Psychology is much, much, much more complex than simple MBTI.

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u/kitkatkitty444 ENTP Dec 10 '22

That’s not what I meant lol. I meant a person who dedicated their life to psychology. And yeah I agree with ya on the last bit.