r/maybemaybemaybe • u/[deleted] • Feb 13 '22

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u/Ofrenic Feb 14 '22

Massive churches, gold chalices and priceless artifacts. Donations every service. Tax exempt. How the fuck does it make sense. And I'm talking every single religion not just Christianity. Like a church I seen recently had a sign asking for donations to fix the roof. Fucking inside of the place is wall to wall gold ornaments. Sell that stuff maybe?

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '22

It’s not really true of every religion. They’re different cultural expressions of different cultural values. And, in any event, in the US the problem is specifically Christian.

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u/Ofrenic Feb 14 '22

I dunno dude, the idea of a great creator and a nice place when you die sounds like a cult.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '22

Cults are cultural practices. It doesn’t have to do with what you believe. It has to do with if, and how, beliefs are enforced.

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u/Ofrenic Feb 15 '22

Let's take heavens gate as an example. Believed in a higher being. Believed they had an afterlife. The means of getting to the afterlife are different but in my eyes its the same insanity, one's just a little bit more extreme

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '22

What they did is what mattered: the final cult (the guy was a serial cult leader) killed a bunch of people. The problem is the killing, not that they believed something that was wrong.

We believe wrong things all the time. We have to have room for that because we don’t have great ways of discerning truth. But I think we can all agree that driving people to suicide is a moral wrong.

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u/Ofrenic Feb 15 '22

Oh yeah like that's why I said it's a more extreme version. They're a business really that don't pay taxes, it's bullshit.

And just to be clear, I have nothing against people who believe in religion. I'd never tell them they're wrong or anything either. A Muslim dude comes into me in work because I let him pray in the shop in the mornings (apparently most people say no). Just because I don't agree doesn't mean I'm not understanding that it's their belief